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The Real Housewives of Dallas S5 - E9 - The Doctor is Out - Live Episode Discussion

Dallas

Tiffany leaves Austin without telling anyone after an altercation with Brandi; Stephanie shares her own mental health journey; D'Andra invites the women to an evening of meditation and spiritual healing with her shaman, Darrin.

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I like D'Andra. I don't think she's a bad person. I think she was just born insanely privileged and is naturally more self centered than people who didn't have that upbringing. I like a delusional self centered housewife myself. Ultimately she's entertaining and harmless.

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She also has achieved a lot. She had a huge addiction to cocaine and managed to kick the habit. She left a great job to work with her mother, her mother then gives her a company at the brink of collapse and D'Andra managed to turn it around. Her father committed suicide, her mum has been controlling of her trust-fund, her mother is also very complicated and competitive andddd the other half of her family isn't talking to her. I bet there is also a lot more we don't know. So I don't judge her by some of the silly behaviour I witness, because I think deep down she's a strong, kind woman, and we have definitely seen a lot of that side of her.

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She is also the offspring of a very self centred mother and pretty much an only child.

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I've always liked that, though she grew up so privileged, she's used that to travel the world and experience and appreciate other cultures. I especially love her love of food. None of this picky 5 year old behavior.

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Her likability level has always been a rollercoaster and I think this has been her best season!

Less shaman, more stories about being a groupie in the 90s please.

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Lol the shaman being Stephanie’s old hairdresser is like pretty top tier for housewives side character.

He was my hairdresser! After living in LA, NY, Boston, and Dallas, he is still hand's down the best hairdresser I have ever had. I live in LA now and keep trying to get him to come out. That man has talent.

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All these bitches that were criticizing me coming into my room at a sensitive moment would make me scream. Let a bitch cry in peace.

Right!? I would have 100% been all GTFO OUT OF MY ROOM NOW

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I was SO uncomfortable. I get like that sometimes where I can't deal in a moment and am just falling apart. What I need is to be left ALONE but people always try to help and it always makes it worse. I showed up at a party once having a nervous breakdown because there was a weird traffic thing in the middle of town and I couldn't get to the house, it took me an extra 1/2 hour because it kept sending me in circles. My friends couldn't understand why I was losing it and I just kept trying to tell them to just let me calm down and I'd be ok.

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The child called Brandi an insensitive Karen. I’m losing my mind.

She was right though. 🐸 ☕️

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Is that the normally very sassy kid?

And Brandi’s face CRACKED🤣

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Is anyone else excited to finally stop celebrating Kary's freaking birthday?

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At this rate the reunion is going to be Kary's 50th Bday themed

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You know that Jeremy and D’Andra are one of the most sexually active HW couples. You just know.

I mean.. engaged thirteen times she doing something right

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I read the "thirteen" in Teresa's voice. That's the power of Bravo

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Oh he tearin that thang up

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More than Kelly Dodd and husband.

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was it the not even a flinch when she was whacked in the ass with a charcuterie board that gave it away?

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Brandi...you are not a victim. Please just stop.

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I know it's inappropriate, but Leanne's face when Stephanie told her she had attempted suicide will always be hilarious to me.

You know Leanne never saw it coming and was hoping to out-depress Stephanie.

Still surprised she wasn't like "oh you took a bottle of pills? I took two bottles of pills. I have bottles of pills in my purse right now and I could take them all at any time."

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Ahahahah she would though and I can literally hear her say that.

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Even Brandi’s husband is speaking the truth lol

I know. I really wasn't expecting that from him, but good job Bryan.

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“I cannot change that I am Asian. If that makes you uncomfortable, that is not my problem.” TIFFANY I LOVE YOOOOOUUUUUU.

I’ve never felt more heard on Bravo

She put it so clearly and eloquently. It is not Tiffany's responsibility or burden to make you feel comfortable Brandi!

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I’m not going to lie, if Dr Moon sticks this on a shirt I’ll wear the hell out of it. Between all this covid racism happening to asian people (especially the elderly) and the micro aggressive nonsense of this season, I’m here for taking up space and dismissing racist bullshit.

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I know this is besides the point but it's bothering me none of them have showered haha

omggg Yes. Straight out of the lake into pajamas?🤢

And getting into bed?! If I was Tiffany I'd be like get out and get off my bed!

She was probably fuming inside.

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Why are they making poor Olivia’s depression a story line ? I don’t like this at all for this poor young woman

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Cause there is only so many times they can celebrate karys birthday parties

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It’s so exploitive 😢

It’s creepy

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This is the moment where I want Tiffany to just reply, “I work at a hospital and save lives, fuck your third birthday celebration”

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I love how Brandi thinks Tiffany is boring yet she just told her husband that she's having a hard time in the group and letting people in. Gee maybe you don't know her at all? Like do you hear yourself?

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Mama Dee sometimes has moments of pure gold and this is one of those moments.

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“Oh. I didn’t know they gave loans to poor people, D’Andra.”

I loved when she turned up at the reunion and then insisted that Kameron look at her whilst she was speaking. So iconic.

I would love to know the drama between kams husbands fam and mama Dee.

I would watch a spin off series or a documentary about Mama Dee.

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D’Andra and her husband absolutely have done boat loads of psychedelics.

Definitely mdma, I could see that too!

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Tiffany wants to be alone. Leave her alone.

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May we all listen to our loved ones as intently as Daniel listens to Tiffany.

I love how he looks at her

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He loves being with her.

I agree. Seeing how much he loves and supports her makes me so happy. And how he is with his twins is so wonderful. Like you can just tell he's a great husband and father.

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They are my new favorite HW married couple

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I cannot STAND this Brandi victim narrative it’s exhausting

she has no idea how completely full caca she sounds, its really gross

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Kary remains such a bitch.

"The water isn't very deep"

Bitch

She's so dismissive of everyone else and nags her point to exhaustion. I can't stand her.

She is so abhorrent! I feel like I only didn’t hate her last season because I was distracted by how horrible Leann is but Kary sucks so fucking much

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That shaman is working every angle of getting coin from rich ladies. Wonder if he also offers Botox

Hustler. Mad respect.

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I'm so tired of these mother's using their daughter's mental health and struggles for the show. Rinna I'm looking at you too.

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I👏🏻DON’T👏🏻GIVE👏🏻A👏🏻RIP👏🏻

Tiffany’s black dress with a mesh V is a top tier confessional look.

I paused so I could take it all in, she looks PHENOMENAL

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She is struggling, because you're all awful, Stephanie.

Be nicer and she won't struggle the same way.

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i used to be indifferent on stephanie but for some reason this season i am like “no thanks, next person please”

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I actually liked Stephanie and Brandi before this season (Brandi sucked once I saw that video, but I think that came out after last season's reunion).

Stephanie is just so mean to Tiffany for no reason.

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How do you not immediately shower after jumping into a murky lake?

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What are you holding back, Brandi? More racist jokes?

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When she made the "isn't it Mandarin?" comment in the last episode it sounded more condescending than aware.

Yuuuuup. Brandi hides behind toilet humor because she’s a giant turd of a person.

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Yup! And while I can’t stand Kary, she was right by telling Brandi to ask Tiffany so as to understand.

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It’s evident Daniel and Tiffany are best friends.

I love to see it!!

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MENTION👏IT👏ALL👏MAMA👏DEE

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I don't blame Tiffany for leaving - I wouldn't want to be around these women, stuck on a bus for hours after that.

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Tiffany working all day saving lives and then being confronted by Kary for not having enough fun at her 1000th birthday party is real petty

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I don’t know how she does this. How exhausting

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Man, as a fellow immigrant the, fear of disappointment Tiffany feels is so so real.

The best thing about Kam is her football playing daughter.

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Okay if there is even a hint of a tear in my eye and someone asks "why are you crying?" thats a cue for my tear ducts to GO OFF and I hate it. Like ugh I wasn't that upset but now I realize I seem that upset.

Or the "Are you okay?" The worst

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That or “just calm down” will instantly make me ugly cry

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Daniel Moon letting the kids run amok is great. He seems like such a normal dude.

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Tiffany left because the girls were CONSTANTLY complaining about SOMETHING she's doing (or not). and now Kary is finding something else to bitch to Tiffany about. It's exhausting.

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I know this is very sad for Kary's daughter but who else just doesn't care about housewive's kids?

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I don’t want to watch any housewife kid unless their name is milania and they’re calling people hookers

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Brandi's racist ass is even making Brian look like an empathetic person?! Get these people off my screen!!

Mama Dee being the voice of reason for Tiffany is not what I was expecting and I enjoy it.

Well d’andra joked tiff is the daughter Dee always wanted

Mama dee’s reaction to medicine Monday is perfection

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Tiffany turning into a robot to avoid feelings is beyond relatable.

It was so weird but so relatable. It's a better way of shutting down than "I'm disengaging" 😆

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Kary you're literally a total bitch.. why would she talk to you?!

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I live that Tiffany showers outside and strips in the garage at her house but will enter karys house in scrubs . Lol

Kary’s storyline is being half a century old and her daughter’s mental health.

I wish she was more interesting of a person.

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Brandi, it isn’t Tiffany’s fault that you’re waking on eggshells around her and it isn’t her responsibility to absolve you.

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I feel terribly for Tiffany.

To address, experience, and relive racism must be very traumatic and she shouldn't be sitting here begging Brandi for a chance to assuage Brandi's ego.

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Watch what crappens episode on this is gonna be so good... not only will we get a Mama Dee impression but they're gonna rip apart Brandi for that letter.

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I don't like that Stephanie is excusing Brandi and that the rest of the women are remaining silent.

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I’m sorry but calling Tiffany “boring?!” Hello, what do you do besides get drunk 24/7 and make dildo or poop jokes

Too High brow, sophisticated, educated for Brandi maybe. But boring is unfair.

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And correct your daughter’s cheer practices with what you did as a DCC.

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How the fuck is Brandi going to allow Tiffany to be comfortable around her when she doesn’t even want to make an effort to get to know her?

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Brandi writing an “I’m the victim” letter to Herself 🙄

Bryan’s eyes literally glazed over while Brandi was reading that letter and fake crying. He couldn’t even fake it lmao

Tiffany’s new confessional is fucking phenomenal

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Seeing Tiffany like this is making me so sad. We’ve all felt like the odd man out. And it hurts.

Omg the shaman reminds me of the guy on the movie The Proposal who is the stripper, waiter and marriage officiant 😂😂

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I really hope these women are watching themselves and their treatment of Tiffany. It's particularly important today considering the rise in very physical violence that is happening to Asian-Americans. I hope this is addressed at the reunion.

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Tiffany is so much nicer than I am. I’d be like girl bye.

Tiffany went to ten schools during K-12.

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This honestly gives so much context to her somewhat "social awkwardness" and unsureness in a new group. Hell I moved ONCE in childhood and that sucked, I cant even imagine permanently having that feeling growing up and then trying to break into a tight clique as an adult and reliving that horrible "new kid" feeling.

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AND she said that she was never really allowed to have friends, and during college she spent all her time studying. She literally doesn’t have the experience with catty girls / just general girl group behaviors! I can’t even imagine how tough that would be.

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Tiffany, stop trying with these assholes.

They don't deserve your candles.

(Send one to me tho)

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Stephanie coddles Brandi too much.

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Mama Dee really doesn't give a rip and it's great

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READY FOR MAMA DEE TO SPEAK ON IT

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D’Andra’s dog is named Dolly Parton. I love it.

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Bullshit Kary. Stop trying to justify your passive aggressive behavior.

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Buying Barbie clothes 😂😂 shade

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Kary is an exhausting person and an even more exhausting friend.

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I never considered washing my travel pieces until Tiffany.

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Let the fucking mouse go, Kary. She left five hours early after everyone was giving her shit for a few days in a row. Get over it.

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Lmfao the fucking timing of this letter

"Learn and grow from my mistakes"

"Have empathy for everyone"

1 minute earlier- "Tiffany is a boring, rude bitch and I don't want to hang out with her"

Their (Kary, Brandi) lack of self-awareness in this situation is almost comical

Kary be like “when you leave my birthday weekend early, it makes my daughter want to kill herself.”

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Brandi 100% resents Tiffany’s presence on the show. It’s like she was hoping that Tiffany would cartwheel onto the show for her redemption moment and then hastily cartwheel out. Brandi clearly hates having her around, most likely because Tiffany is a constant reminder of her racism. That’s why she’s so hung up on every little interaction she has with her. If her video was really just a “joke done in bad taste”, then Brandi wouldn’t feel this emotional about Tiffany’s sheer presence. It also feels like she’s constantly prodding at Tiffany for a negative reaction because in Brandi’s mind, this would absolve her of the video.

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It is so unfair the way people of color are expected to carry the emotional burden of other people’s racism. I can’t even imagine, and it must be fucking exhausting. Everyone should have held Brandi accountable in that moment instead of doing it later from the safety of their confessionals.

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Brandi and kary both just suck.

Part of me hopes/thinks the editors included her reading that stupid ass letter because they could tell it was awful and knew the audience would dislike her even more for it.

No, Kary, do not pressure me into jumping into a damn lake in my dinner clothes. No thanks.

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I don’t want to watch white Brandi cry about her fight for acceptance

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IF YOU FEEL GUILTY, APOLOGIZE TO HER FACE AND BE BETTER.

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I really really try to be open to allowing people to show growth/change but Brandi is proving she has not grown/changed at all. D'andra is right, this is all about Brandi and here Brandi is asking the victim of her racial aggressions/microaggressions to do the work for her. Really glad she quit and this is her last season.

Me, the viewer, feels gaslit by Brandi’s explanation of their trip. Seriously, wtf was that?

That’s nice but I’m not going to let myself be vulnerable around people who refuse to hear me & are racist. Could be just me though.

My friend is a gynecologist, the amount of bodily fluids she gets on her shoes and scrubs is out of control. I agree with Tiffany

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Kary seems to always try and turn the issue around, manipulative and annoying

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Brandi, stop talking about Tiffany. OMG get a fucking grip

“Maybe you need to learn some things too.” Y’allllll I just fell off the couch. If she don’t shut up.

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These girls are REACHING for things to dislike about Tiffany

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MAMA DEE FULL TIME WHEN?

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“I’m trying to be softer.” ARE YOU THOUGH?

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I'm already feeling frauded by the Shaman and he's been here for 30 seconds.

Omg Brandi’s bratty daughter is more culturally sensitive than her. ☠️

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It seems like her whole family is

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Tiffany is the MVP. Showing us REAL emotions. Real life stories. She is such a great addition.

While working as an Anesthesiologist!

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Brandi keeps finding a way to try and make herself the victim

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FUCK YOU KARY. FUCKING FUCK YOURSELF ALL THE WAY OFF. You’re telling Tiffany now that what Brandi said was a result of her own issues but you couldn’t fucking say a word in that moment to support Tiffany, and now you’re literally trying to make her feel bad just because she left without kissing your ring? Kindly GET FUCKED and get off my TV. Holy fuck I am on the verge of a rage blackout for how these cunts are treating Tiffany. asfkgjfjdssydifofidusy

Please come to my defense if I’m ever in a bad situation. I need you, Figurative Yacht.

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This show is truly so much better without LeeAnne. She was so over the top I literally could never suspend my disbelief enough to get into the storylines

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Tiffany is so open. If I were here I would not explain myself—childhood trauma and all—to these condescending jackasses. But clearly post-season she’s done with the niceties and I love that for her.

"""Treatment""" what exactly does Racist Rehab consist of? Being forced to watch 'Roots' ala Kathy Bates' severed head in American Horror Story?

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Tiffany remains so gracious to all these women when they're just being unrelenting assholes to her.

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You know Tiffany told Danny Pellegrino early on in the season that she wasn’t sure if she wanted to do another season. I was surprised then, but I totally get it now. They are all attacking her (except D’Andra) for no reason. That has to be exhausting.

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Can't Tiffany just get a break? She's literally just existing and Brandi feels like she's walking on eggshells. Huh? lol

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Wow Bryan sounds reasonable?!

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Someone said the other day that they were tired of forced drama on HW shows. At least this season it seems the drama isn’t forced. Yes, it is absolutely cringe at times, but we can’t say that they are fabricating things. This season is actually very real and raw.

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Bravo totally brought Tiffany in to purposefully make Brandi uncomfortable and leave

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u/tacobellini avatar

Is Dallas the only franchise where every wife is currently married?

Have any other franchises had that?

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You know what’s really rude, Kary? Brandi putting the onus on Tiffany to forgive her for the racism and nobody telling Brandi to shut up right then and there.

Kary of all people should get that having been subjected to LeeAnne’s racist behaviour about her last year!

YES LET’S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION

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love a Mama Dee read

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None of you bitches DESERVE closure, Kary. Seriously. And Brandi? Pretending like you’d suddenly be her BFF the morning after? You can stop talking and get off my tv.

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Oh, Brandi

Tiffany has hand fed you chances to not be such a piece of shit, but you keep digging a deeper hole.

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This is why Tiffany is a doctor and I am not because I would not have had the patience for that chat about leaving early (the same day they did) from a weekend trip with Kary after a day of working at the hospital

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Tiffany’s anxiety about self worth is SO. TRUE. among Asian Americans. It’s so relatable.

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Another fucking Brandi racism cliffhanger. Is this the third this season? When will she just not be racist for a change?

D’Andra: I DID NOTHING WRONG

*mama Dee walking, just creeping around the corner”

I can’t with this editing sometimes

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  1. Brandi if you can’t be yourself around Tiffany it’s because you’re racist.

  2. I totally relate to Tiffany wanting so badly to fit in and be accepted but also being too guarded to let yourself get there

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YOU ALL SAW WHAT HAPPENED STOP ASKING

Lol sorry I don't see any similarities between Kary and Tiffany...like you're both women?

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As an Asian person I was so excited for the representation this season, now I’m so disappointed.

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Hell yeah Tiffany's tired.... of all the bs. You go girl!

Tiffany has a lot of trauma that she’s working through. I like her, she’s too good for this cast haha.

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Katy is terrible, but she has the skin of a 20 year old and I am tremendously jealous.

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I’m happy Brandi left the series now. Just gotta survive the rest of the season with her.

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I never really thought much of Bryan in past seasons but he actually seems like a decent guy.

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Mama Dee does not look almost 80!

I hope Olivia can find freedom from her mother and a good therapist. If my mother put me on TV about being suicidal I would never forgive her.

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Brandi needs to deal with her own issues and stop trying to force Tiffany to fix her.

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“I’m uncomfortable around Tiffany because then I’m going to have to feel bad if I say something racist”

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“I don’t give a rip” 👌🏾👌🏾

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I love Tiffany on this show, but I am so annoyed with the shit she has to put up with from these ladies...