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The newly promoted teams are straight up not having a good time.
Everton will probably start up this year without trouble compared to the last couple of years.
Newly promoted usually do ok at the start of the season and struggle as the season goes on. But they're in trouble already.
Luton and Sheffield look dire. Burnley not much better but i reckon they have the best chance to stay up out of the three
Burnley have had very hard fixtures so far i think they get much better as the season goes on
Agreed. I think Burnley stays up
Burnley legit could have won against Man United, they had many great chances
Tbf Utd have been horrific this season
To be honest the lineup they had to field might as well have been a Burnley level lineup. Utd have been fucked with injuries and.. surrounded by PR nightmares
Sheffield United
Everyone played up Luton's fairy tale but its clear they are far out of their league .Sheffield don't look any better than last time they were here . These teams are actually making Everton look decent
The entire consensus was that it was awesome Luton got promoted for prestige and financial reasons, but they were 100% going down.
The hype was about promotion imo, nobody thought they would do well in EPL. Just enjoy the money, build your infrastructure, invest in things the club can use for generations to come and you are good. Keeping a decent chunk of your squad with a few additions is probably enough to come back up anyway. And to be fair I kinda like their approach. Make Luton great - EPL can go fuck themselves, nobody promised them a competitive team haha.
Avoiding the drop this season is not about hitting 40ish points, its about being less shit than 3 other teams.
We had three of us promoted teams stay up last season. Could be three promoted going down this one instead.
Tbf Luton were always favourites to go down, they are by every metric outmatched in the PL. Burnley have had a horrible schedule, can’t judge them. Sheffield United I’ve not seen much of tbh. Forest spent over £100m, Fulham spent brilliantly and already had pieces that could do it in the Prem, Bournemouth were the only team that everyone saw going down.
Luton feels like a team that kinda just want to enjoy the occasion of being in the premier league and enjoy themselves with the idea of preparing life in the championship next season. Their signings are upper tier championship level signings by the most part and tbh their team was relatively weak for championship standards so they really would have had to overhaul the entire team to have a strong chance of survival.
Seems like their end goal is to get the prem money, prepare for relegation and hope to get promoted the next season with a much stronger base squad instead of blowing their cash on players that will most likely leave should they relegated and basically be stuck on step one again.
One of the reason why I believe we will survive relegation this season
You should let Poch know
If they get relegated it’s ok because it’s a project
😂
Well, no one expected a thing from Luton as they were ultra-underdogs even for Championship but Burnley and Sheffield are more used to be in this scene so it is embarrasing on their side.
Burnley have had tough fixtures it's not embarrassing
We're having a fucking great time mate, we've gone toe-to-toe with our three last oppositions. This is all we wanted as fans this season, to see our team play, and be competitive against, top opposition once more after years and years of absolute shite and financial turmoil.
Chelsea away to Luton is going to be the funniest match of the season
What happens when the stoppable force meets the moveable object
Watch it end up being some kind of 4-3 banger
With a last second goal from Luton
Nah last second goal from Chelsea to try and save face and make it 4-1 to luton
Luton scoring 4 in one match would be something, they don’t even have 4 this season yet lol
This is the funniest thing I've read all day.
It’s such a lose-lose proposition for Chelsea
A relegation six pointer is hardly lose-lose
Chelsea are lucky that this is the worst trio of promoted teams in a long time.
I still wouldn't write Burnley off just yet. They've had a really tough set of fixtures, and they look good when they play.
Yeah they should stay in the Prem with the level they show.
Even our goals scored to conceded ratio is 3:1
You play 3-1 football. Salt of the earth, punch the clock, consistent 1-goal conceded PL. You let one in, guess what? You'll score three, too. But don't get too excited or let it go to your head. No clean sheets here, no sir. That's hubris, which this burning-red, hard working Merseyside team doesn't have. A few goals in a row, these guys, true to form, will balance it out with by conceding a goal. Yes sir, that's your 2023 Liverpool. A good, honest 3-1 Premier League team.
Feels like some fresh pasta this.
Just reheated pasta, compliments of Chef Mike
I love seeing a good OWL copypasta in the wild
It’s originally a Memphis Grizzlies pasta circa December 2021
Aye grizzlies copypasta
When you win every game 3-1 then this is a likely outcome tbh
quick mafs
lmao they legit won 5 matches with that score. 2 non-league but the other three PL matches are 1-1, 2-1, 3-0. Can't make this stuff up really.
3-1 FC this season.
Outscore the opponent with some breathing room? Checked!
Six wins out of six, and not one bead of sweat has trickled down into City's arse crack.
Whereas Chelsea are fucking drowning.
Not saying city is not the best team in the league but they had the one of the easiest fixtures so far
Chelsea statistically had the easiest lol
There is no such thing as "easiest" for Chelsea
Is it a scheduled match? If yes, not easy
But they are Chelsea. They finished 12th last year while City finished 1st. Yes they have the name but in any other season this is like comparing city's and palace's form and saying city is doing much better well obviously they're also a much better so why even bother comparing. And Palace actually finished above Chelsea last season to make things worse
But their squad is young mate on the books for 8 years they will be winning the league with poch as the longest serving prem manager in 6 years just you wait
Yes technically any fixture with Chelsea is very easy.
Lucky for them as they have a paper thin squad right now.
West Ham gave them a lot of trouble, their hardest fixtures were also at home
They definitely got lucky against Sheffield Utd.
Great to be in the top half with all the lads!
Your 2 spots above midtable you should be very proud
Not this again lol
That Man U fan trying to justify being in 10th wasn't midtable was the greatest and saddest thing I've ever seen.
i miss u/sorrytouruinyourday tbh. Top lad, was very enjoyable to read his comments.
link?
https://reddit.com/r/soccer/s/auARRXM2i2
Think that was the joke mate
That’s what it’s all about! No accepting cookies business
Citypool is back on the menu boys
My heart's not ready and it never will be.
you just know City will have a stumble near the end of the season that lets you get 1 point behind them and then they will just win the last 5-6 games in a row.
This is the way
Being down by 2 at half time in the last one of course.
Just hope we don't finish second on 97 points again.....
Lets all laugh at Chelsea
I have come to associate this clip with Chelsea now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q35PgSXhKg&ab_channel=dr725
For me it’s this one
https://youtu.be/syPxMG-o0as?feature=shared
Read that as the tall guy in that Simpsons episode.
Yes imagine supporting Chelsea lol
Mad the fixtures we’ve had and not being in the bottom three. Anyway, Arsenal next lol
I know, we are very unfortunate 🫠
it means you'll hopefully shoot up the table soon. just make sure it's after next week :p
Poch is getting sacked before Christmas
No way the lemons will protect him
not if they get stolen first.
Those lemon stealing whores!
When you have to sack 3 highly regarded managers within a year and a half whilst spending a billion, something tells me it may not be managers at fault.
.........then there's good ol' Frank.
I would love to have Frank come back.
You won't need to, Boehly will offer him a hefty bag to have his services
Hahaha yeah but no seriously it's a real issue at the club.
Boehly is very regarded (ala wsb style).
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It's also not his fault the ownership will need someone to put the blame on
Thank God, I can go back to loving him unconditionally again. Relegate them lemon God!
Poch may actually become a true PL legend if he relegates Chelsea.
I will personally put a lemon on my desk and rotate them out diligently if he gets Chels relegated
I'll accept him back into my life but I never want to see him at the helm for Spurs again lol
Halloween*
If they're smart they'll wait until the ludicrous amount of injured nailed on starters are back before properly judging him. Chelsea so far have been XG FC again.
My predciction of Luton finishing highest of the 3 promoted sides so far so good.
Absolutely amazing week for us. Basically every result was what we would've wanted plus an amazing performance against Brentford with DCL looking sharp again
Hopefully starting a bit of a gap from Wolves (vs Man City) and Bournemouth (vs Arsenal) next week. Then we're playing Bournemouth at home after that. With Wolves playing Villa that week we could get another very nice set of results our way.
Let's not take anything against Luton for granted. It would be so "Everton that" to go away to Brentford and dominate and then lose the statistically easiest fixture of the season.
I think you'll be solid mid table this season.
Dyche will keep you right.
Honestly Dyche is a miracle worker. Just needs more support and investments and he can sustain you guys in the premier league again without risk of relegation
Ha!
It’s a shame we took so long to get Beto in. So many wasted chances against Wolves and Fulham.
All 3 promoted teams in relegation zone
Chelsea joining them by the end of November
Just look at our fixtures
Are you the the real matt law?
Us (villa) doing quietly well. 2 losses away at St James & Anfield, managing to win the rest home and away.
Brighton next week will be a tough match
Even when they’d already qualified for europa league and never got out of 2nd gear at the end of last season they were still a threat. Think Pau could have a tough game as he’s still adapting to the team and the league. Kamara and Luiz will need another fantastic game.
Villa are our bogey team mate, I’m not confident
Everton 🤝 Brighton
Villa Being your bogey team.
I don't even think we've hit our stride yet and we're in 6th. When Ramsey and Moreno get back to full fitness, it will give us a huge boost going forward.
Looks like the ones who made it to the PL aren't gonna make it at the end of the season.
Everton gonna survive again, aren’t they?
They're not even that bad this season.
Remember when you all kept calling us Xg merchants? Well look who's top of goals scored now ya' cunts.
youre outscoring your xg by almost 30%. This is not sustainable. You will inevitably drop off soon when the xg gods come calling.
Am I doing this right?
If you remove all of Brighton's goals scored then they've yet to score a goal all season
This guy stats.
Yeah I mean if you adjust Brighton's tally down to the league average and take away the outliers, you'll see that they're not all that special.
What does this tell us?
It tells us that Brighton's perceived success in the league is largely inflated by unsustainable, wildly outlier stats in these recent games as perceived elite talent. When you adjust for the future by bringing down their outlier stats, Brighton regresses heavily to a slightly above average goalscoring form of a 2022-23 Crystal Palace or Chelsea
This is actually the regression to the mean for all those years of xG underperformance. Another four or five years of this now I think.
How do we know you aren't just doing a Face/Off with Chelsea?
Chelsea not only took your players, coaches, manager, but also xG. Truly an elite club Brighton are !
Liverpool
Yes
City Liverpool III : Salah’s Last Dance
*Szobos first dance
This hypothetically will be our 4th title race Everyone forgets 13/14
do you actually think he's gonna leave next year?
I honestly really hope not, he is still easily one of the best in the world but I’m not sure if FSG would offer him another extension
I might be delusional, but if we put on a title challenge and add a couple of better players and look competitive for CL next season, he will stay. He’s shown that he’s really competitive and cares about titles. And he’s still in his prime.
It's not about us looking attractive to Salah in a bid to make him stay. I don't think FSG will be willing to offer him an extension on even his current terms and would rather cash in, even though most of the fans want him to retire here.
Even if we could pay him silly money for just like two more years it’d be so worth it
I don’t want him to leave but I think he will.
Saudis offered 150M for him this summer, they'll be back next summer and we'll probably not get a chance to sell him for that high a price again.
I think selling Salah and using the money on a world class dm, a cb and a salah replacement is the best option for us.
You'd need all that for world class DM alone judging by recent prices
Newcastle suddenly 9 GD.
Newcastle scored more goals today than Man United have all season.
Same goes for Chelsea, but I guess people expect that by now lol
I was aiming for Chelsea when I clicked on the post, changed my mind when seeing Man U were available for the extra karma
I respect it
Yeah but like 9 goals is a lot. Give us a few months.
Newcastle scored more goals today than half the table have all season
Newcastle scored as many today as they had all season
This is a fun stat.
Is it time for the Chelsea goal of the month awards?
And the award goes to:
Josh Brooking of Chelsea U21!
Holy fuckin shit Brighton!
I'm so curious to see how they manage to play against their more tougher fixtures
We do better against sides who press us. It's the sit back and counter sides which fuck us up.
We do have a very crazy schedule coming up though be interesting how our depth comes through.
Yeah I saw your Europa match last week and it was the low block and counter which seemed to get you
please let chelsea get relegated it’d be so fucking funny
We will be there
This has to be one of the highest scoring seasons so far.
An extra 10 minutes per match will help with that.
Unironically, chelsea are actually the 14th best team in the pl.
The only points they'll get this season are from those 6 below them.
I don't see them scoring against Everton's low block, also if Wolves show up like they did vs ManU or in the first half vs Liverpool, they walk through this Chelsea team
Crazy there are still 4 unbeaten teams
In 2018-19, there were 3 unbeaten teams for 12 games. City, Liverpool and Chelsea and all were right next to each other on the table. Of course City and Liverpool ended with 98 and 97 points respectively while Chelsea ended with..... 72 points in 3rd just one ahead of Spurs in 4th and 2 ahead of Arsenal in 5th. They did something similar in 21/22 when they were in the title race till december with the other 2 only to end 3rd with 74 points while City and Pool got 93 and 92 respectively. So yes early season form can be deceiving in fact half season form can be as well
Oh yeah I forgot that Chelsea were top around Xmas that year (21/22). That really was the beginning of their demise. From cl winners to top at Xmas to 14th in 2023
Last time they looked good was the madrid 2 3 game probably,or that 2 2 tottenham game
Remember when Chelsea supporters were taking the piss out of Liverpool for missing out on Caicedo and Lavia and predicting a top 5 finish? Funny stuff.
Brighton scammed Chelsea big time
15th place has never felt so good
Gonna be another one of them City v. Liverpool seasons isn't it
Hopefully. But I’d rather beat them in a tight 1 point gap this time
I see Haaland is pulling away in the age old struggle against Chelsea for most goals.
Formula 1 🤝 Premier League.
Super interesting season if it wasn't for the reigning champs
Luton isn't last 🙌
(Definitely getting relegated but it's the small joys right now haha)
Chelsea at 14th is nice to look at
Let’s go Brighton
Bro didn't even wait for game week to finish. You did Blades dirty lol
Ah, mid table mediocrity, how I've craved you for so long
Having a start involving City, Spurs and United will do that to you.
Chelsea and Newcastle next.
It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
At least you have Chelsea.
I'm a little frustrated. Before the season we got three really interesting teams promoted to Premier League. Totally new Burnley under Kompany that played magnificient football in Championship, more experienced Sheffield that returned after two years and Luton Town, fresh blood. In my eyes it was promising.
Now it seems that we have three weakest promoted teams in history. I hope at least one of them will get up soon :/
Burnley have played City, United, Spurs, Forest, and Villa. They have had a very tough start to the season, and got a result where it mattered, a draw against Forest. I think it’s still too soon to write them off just yet
they looked the far better team against United, albeit United is in an injury crisis
Still only 6 games in long ways to go. Burnley will find their form I think
Three weakest promoted sides in history you are joking mate. Derby County 2007 does not exist? There have been worse promoted teams and we are only 6 games in for fuck's sake. The same Sheffield Utd who received a drubbing today ran city the closest of anyone all season and city scored a last minute winner. They ran Spurs even closer and were leading until the 98th min before the collapse. Don't get the knives out so fast
by the end of their next fixtures Chelsea would be lucky to be finishing above 17th
So what I’m seeing is Liverpool finishing second and trailing by 1 or 2 points at the end of the season with City winning with an own goal from Paqueta near the 80th minute.
Also the inevitable signing of Paqueta from City a couple of months later.
You know something, I don't like you.
(I mean, you're right, let's face it. But I don't like you.)
Probably an unpopular opinion here, and believe me was very happy with the way we played yesterday, but I think Brentford would be a sneaky candidate for relegation this year if the newly promoted teams weren't so awful. For some reason I can really see the wheels falling off for them soon; I think teams are finally catching onto their playstyle and things will get nervy for them until Toney is back (if they decide to keep him at all).
This season I don't think so, its hard to see any team doing a Leicester again, but next season once they lose some more quality players without replacing then like raya I could see them dropping fast
The Rico Henry injury doesn't help either
That’s actually one of the main issues.
They beat us when we played badly and with a ridiculous penalty and then sending off for Ream. Of course we got a PGMOL apology lol
Arsenal having a must win game against man city already
I love football Reddit. A week ago we were all but relegated in your eyes. Nothing's changed it's just our hard work finally paid off
Ngl, i'm honestly concerned that like Sheffield are so crap considering today and yet they somehow ended second with Luton Town whom tbh havent performed that badly for a new team in the Premier League having to win the playoffs. Like, jesus how did Sheffield manage to avoid not playing the playoffs like Luton?
Sheffield United* and its just football init, one week we take spurs and man City to last minute winners and the next we get thumped 8-0 by Newcastle. The prem is a whole different beast
Feels really good to still be unbeaten
I never thought I’d say this but Everton playing better than Chelsea. Just a matter of time until they move up the table, considering the teams Chelsea is up against.
Seriously if Chelsea get a single point out of us this season I’ll be devastated
Scenes when City and Liverpool both win out and split their fixtures for another 2 point difference season.
Chelsea could potentially be in the relegation zone. Look at their fixtures...
Four teams without defeat. Let's see how long that continues! Spurs v Liverpool next week 👍
Goal difference is a hell of a thing, ain't it
I wonder how many of those goals were scored after the 90'