[Wojnarowski] The Indiana Pacers are trading guard Malcolm Brogdon to the Boston Celtics, sources tell ESPN.
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Woj: The Celtics are sending Daniel Theis, Aaron Nesmith and a 2023 first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.
Woj: Celtics are also including Nik Stauskas, Malik Fitts and Juwan Morgan in the trade, sources tell ESPN.
Theis will somehow find his way back onto the Celtics by the trade deadline
They’ll fuckin trade him again
and he'll fuckin come back a 3rd time
Daniel "Yo-yo" Theis
snip snap snip snap
You have no idea the physical toll that three trades has on a person!
Theis understand his role. Just fill salary for trades and collect a ring.
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As is the way.
“You guys are all wrong. I have never been traded away from the Celtics”
He’ll play like ass in Indiana, get bought out, sign with us, and when someone gets injured he’ll play a crucial 15 minutes for us in the playoffs next year
he can't sign back with you for a year if the pacer's buy him out. I think if he gets traded again and plays for a different team then gets bought out he could come back. Not 100% on the rules on it.
He is truly the most loyal celtic
https://i.imgur.com/7d3keLh.jpeg
Lol
that's a huge get for Boston
If he stays healthy, he’s so good
The good news is the Celtics can afford to manage his load during the regular season
I will manage his load considering what we paid for him
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Lol what were ppl saying that got this whole thread Thanos'd
They gave up next to nothing for him so it's not even that risky.
for real. we offloaded a bunch of third stringers and borderline rotation guys. i cant believe how cheap a get he was. hopefully he can stay healthy.
You’ll see why he was so cheap to get. If he gets you 40 games next season count that as a win
2023 pick will likely be a very late 1st round. A great deal, indeed.
He's also under contract for 3 more years at 20 million+
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He’ll be coming off the bench and we enough enough of a guard rotation that we’d be able to manage his minutes if need be. And we hardly gave up anything to get him, just a FRP and a few third stringers.
x4
Big if
That’s crazy that Boston addressed their two biggest issues in playmaking and shooting with one pick
If he can stay on the court. He’s always hurt. AD levels.
Brogdon is a great fit in Boston. He also has three years and $67M guaranteed left on his deal, and has played 48, 64, 54, 56, and 36 games over the last 5 seasons -- two of which were COVID-shortened. Thus his chillier-than-expected trade market. - Lowe
Boston has a super deep rotation. With Smart, White, and Pritchard, they have 4 capable ball handlers. Tatum, White, Jaylen, Grant, and Gallo they have multiple capable wings.
Brogdon likely won’t need to play 50 games even if he’s healthy all season.
Will he be healthy for the playoffs is all that matters and with Brogdon that is far from given
The point is he can rest half the time, or whatever it takes so he is healthy for the playoffs.
He won’t be starting too, probably playing less minutes than he has been last couple years. Great get for the bench.
between this an gallinari they're looking really deep for next year
More to come. Still have our big TPE.
Rooting hard for a bigger wing/stretch big now
Gallo at 6'9"/6'10" is the stretch big. I think we need a defensive big now and a wing still.
For the first 15 games
This dude kills me in fantasy every year for this exact reason. Never drafting him again
People don't think his injury history matters until he plays for them. Guy legit is made of paper. Hopefully Boston didn't give up anything significant.
Theis, Aaron Nesmith, and a first apparently. Theis is a medioce/decent backup but he wasn't playing much towards the end of the season, and idk who Nesmith is. Seems like a pretty damn good deal for the Celtics if Brogdon can stay healthy.
if he stays healthy and his 3 point percentage has slipped too
Not having Giannis around plus increased usage will do that to some...
Giannis had fucking George Hill shooting 50% from 3 lmao
That's another great move to win now
TPE still available too…Brad is cooking up something fierce
my guy is cooking WITH GAS
[WOJ] The Boston Celtrics have signed Pierre GASly for some reason using their TPE.
Huge w. No one is going to say “if only Aaron nesmith and Daniel theis were here” for Boston
You lost Sauce Castillo though!
We lost Malik Fitts, who was an ELITE bench vibes guy during the playoffs
Fitts is gonna have a 10-year career based solely on the FACT that he's an elite bench vibes guy. Just a great dude to have hanging around - not to play basketball, but to vibe basketball.
Ok but Max Strus
I wouldn’t bet on it but Nesmith has plenty of potential.
I hope he gets playing time and wish him the best of luck. If he ends up crushing it good for him. I’d still much rather have Brogdon now since we have 2 extremely capable wings at the moment and Nesmith just won’t see the court much regardless
yeah but what if we suck and that pick turns into Victor watermelon
Brad absolutely hates draft picks lol
Fuck them picks
IMO, picks in the mid to late 20s are only valuable for drafting players if you actually have available minutes in your rotation to develop those players. With Boston having its top 7-8 players already set, may as well trade that first for an upgrade now.
Lmao yessirrrr
He's like the anti-Danny Ainge.
His least favorite thing at Butler was recruiting. He probably sees drafting as the same. lol
Why try make player good when can just get good player
He had enough when he saw earlier Danny hoarding draft picks and never trade them
I think either hoarding or selling all picks are the right move, but just keeping your own late pick isn’t.
Depends what position you're in. Early 20s picks I think is still worth it to keep unless you're packaging a few pieces for a significant upgrade. As well, if you're a good drafting team like Toronto/Miami, even late picks can be remarkably valuable, because a contributor on a rookie contract is basically salary cap magic (eg: Siakam was earning less than $2m while dropping 30+ in the finals for us in 2019).
If you're picking from 27-30 and already have a superstar though, fuck them picks.
Good. We’re trying to win now. If all it takes to get rotational pieces is end of bench guys and a first that ends up being #27-30, I’m all for it.
He left coaching college to basically coach another college team for 8 years. He's giving Udoka what he never had.
A nice change
But at the same time, he's so shrewd with them. We have never traded a pick more than a year away (I am aware SAS has rights to swap in 2028).
He’s fucking scarred from all the Ainge projects.
I mean really - he’s turned three late firsts into Al Horford, Derrick White, and Malcolm Brogdon. Last two are in their primes and locked up on good contracts. It’s not like he’s flipping firsts for garbage.
It's about team situation not Ainge vs Brad. When the Jays were 21-22, we needed to be hoarding picks to accumulate talent around them while ducking the tax to prevent repeater penalties. Now that they're 24-25 we need to be burning picks and taking on salary to win chips in their 3-5 year prime window
Yeah that finals run was the threshold. Celtics have turned that corner. Fun times.
There is no room on this bench for developing teenagers. Time to go all in.
Wow. Celtics are loading up hardcore. Adding Brogden and Gallo to an already stacked team, is insane.
They still have the 17.1 mil TPE. Not sure they’ll use it though. They’re looking at a legit 9 man playoff rotation right now.
they better use it, it expires in less than three weeks.
Pick up Terrence Ross from the Magic with it. Trust.
And giving up almost nothing. Please stay healthy Malcom!
[WojESPN] The Celtics are sending Daniel Theis, Aaron Nesmith and a 2023 first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1542925547168317442?s=21&t=jWVV18CW-qY30UTer0iH8g
What a steal.
Like yo wtf?
Steal if you think he’s ever staying healthy.
Brogdon can't stay healthy and doesn't really fit with our offense. He's an off-guard that wants to be a PG but doesn't have the ability.
The good thing about the Celtics is that they can limit his playing time during the season to mitigate his injury issues thanks to their already stacked roster.
Oh damn for who
Theis, Nesmith, and 2023 FRP
That's a steal. Damn, while we're waiting for a KD pipe dream, the ECF champs are out here getting stronger
We still got a 17 million dollar TPE too.
Things getting spicy.
Lol what? You guys are going all in definitely
THEY TRADED THEIS TWICE LMAO
He’ll come back at the deadline it’s fine
and until then he's really just our man on the inside.
That's surprisingly cheap
At this point I have no clue. A lot of people were saying it would cost us a first to trade Brogdon due to injury concerns. getting back a late first is more what i expected.
Just wait until Nesmith gets actual consistent minutes. He's got a lot of room to grow.
and some other garbage lol
I'm telling Nik Stauskas you said this and he's gonna mess you up
And Sauce Castillo
Theis, Nesmith, and a 2023 first
Pretty cheap ngl
Fuck that’s a good trade
As a Malcolm Brogdon fan it’s going to pain me to have to switch my team to Boston. I can’t stand Pats and Bruins fans.
Come join the over the top toxicity my friend
Celtics fans are the best Boston team fans by far. I wish that was a compliment.
The toxicity of our city, our city.
ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US
YO SOMEONE TOSS THIS GUY A SAM ADAMS AND A RED SOX HAT HES COMING TO JOIN US
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Nah I just live in Pittsburgh and we don’t have a team but I cheer for UVA in college hoops and he was my favorite player so I’ve just been following whatever team he plays for
I'm with you. Dude seems like such a good fucking dude too.
They needed a guy like him in the finals tbh
3rd option, decent but not great facilitator. good shooter. has size, but iffy lateral quickness.
They needed a guy like that in the finals tbh
In every fucking sport Boston sends out it's BS players and a pick for a really good player like they turned off trade rejections.
I mean, Mookie Betts begs to differ.
I don't even care about baseball but I'll never understand why they didn't pay that man.
I will never stop being upset they didn’t pay Mookie. Motherfuckers, man
Funny, this is the reason I stopped caring about baseball.
And NESN isn't available on YouTube TV due to the team's greed, but hey -- Henry gonna Henry.
but fr why didn’t we pay Mookie i still don’t understand that
not cool
They are going all in, good for them
That’s a certified Woj bomb
Brad Stevens is so much the anti Danny Ainge it’s hilarious, the man does not give a fuck about draft picks or prospects at all
He gets the timeline. God bless him
Danny set it up and Brad is knocking them down. Different GMs for different situations. Look at what Ainge is doing in Utah. He just got four first round picks for Gobert and a rookie coach from the Celtics. He's got a formula.
Formula = schwindling bad GMs for massive pick hauls 😂
THEY BETTER NOT BE TRADING DERRICK
Avourse not theis, Nesmith.
Holy mother of w’s
We love the buffalo
Holy shit, he's perfect for them
Now to protect him and timelord 24/7 so they dont get injured
Brogdon and Timelord preparing for the playoffs
It's wild to me that people see this move as a harbinger of an incoming Smart move.
With traditional NBA lineup in mind, you need 96 minutes of guard play.
The 22-23 Celtics will now have Marcus Smart, Derrick White, Malcolm Brogdon, and Jaylen Brown splitting those 96 minutes between em and you can theoretically pair up any of them with the other.
If we stick with the double big starting lineup, we have White and Brogdon coming off the bench. If Brogdon slides into the starting line up we now have Al or Rob coming off the bench.
And there are still moves to come.
Just an absolutely fantastic move by Brad Stevens.
Damn
People are focused on Brogdon, but are ignoring the biggest get of this trade in Sauce Castillo
Pacers also got an elite bench celebrator in malik fitts, I’m unironically going to miss him lol
Wait they got Fitts this trade sucks now
league leader in contested pull up bricks without ever passing in garbage time
Nik Rocks!
HOLY FUCK
Doesn't fit in the TPE, who they sending back?
EDIT: The Celtics are sending Daniel Theis, Aaron Nesmith and a 2023 first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.
Oh shit I didn’t even realize this. So we still have the TPE?
WWWWWWWW
Theis will be back on the Celtics by the end of the season. What a steal for them if Brogdon stays healthy
Damn what a great pickup for Boston. Fills a desperately needed position
he is a perfect player for what they need
FOR WHO FUCK
Pacers fans rejoicing
They are about to do some legendary tanking. Carlisle is gonna have them play hard for 3 1/2 quarters then put out the worst possible line up in the fourth. It's almost like he prepares them to play the worst basketball ever for a solid 5 minute stretch
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Yo chill but you’re not wrong LOL
If he stays healthy this is a crazy deal for the Celtics. Honestly I’m a little surprised no other contender beat this offer.
NO WAY I LOVE THIS
The second group of guys is like when you’re walking away from the cashier and you just hand him all the extra change they just gave you cause you don’t wanna carry it in your pocket. Here have this too, maybe you’ll appreciate it.
Brad Stevens is a wizard, got this dude for next to nothing.
Damn
Everyone thinks Cers got fleeced. All Pacer fans just happy we got a 1st out of it.
Cers? that's a thing?
Already know pacers got fleeced
Honestly I’m happy with a first round pick for him
Nesmith honestly has potential
We don’t need to delude ourselves anymore
He has potential, I’m just not sure he will ever realize it.
First Romeo now Nesmith. This is such a nice change.
Imo it’s a win win. Pacers get a pick and a possible project in nesmith, Celtics give up assets they don’t need to for a player that slots in perfectly, but take on risk of his injury history
Exactly. Youre reasonable
Trade summary:
Celtics get - Malcolm Brogdon Pacers get - Daniel Theis, Aaron Nesmith, 1st round pick
1st isn’t bad for Brogdan.
Late first , and some Celtics fans still have hope for Nesmith, dude has ton of heart and fire to play. Hope he does will in Indiana
dude is a high energy, hustling, and effort giving ball of chaos
he has a ton of potential imo
just the chaos isn't good chaos right now
Right, I think hes too amped when he hits the court. If he calms down a bit he can be something I fellZ
He’s the kind of guy you’d love to have on a rebuilding team but there just isn’t room for him if we’re going all in.
Best case scenario he figures his shot out and some discipline on defense and he blossoms into a high end role player.
Worst case scenario he doesn’t improve much but gives you a ton of effort/energy and is a good guy to have around the locker room.
Fine with it as a Pacers fan. Nesmith is a guy to take a flier on, we grabbed another first rounder for next year (currently projected at 3 assuming the Cavs make the playoffs), opened up a big trade exception and enough cap space to absorb a max contract…
And the most important part: cleared up our backcourt to open up a path for our young guys.
2023 Celtics first is basically a 2nd
Holy cow
Damn, Celts are killing it so far
That’s a great fit. Celtics looking spooky
Imagine thinking your GM is better then Brad Stevens
That man is so fucking good at his job
Hey.. can we join in on this party, or not yet?
You gave Horford back to us. You're in the VIP gold membership club.
Aww yiss, respect. Fuck the Warriors.
Love you
we got brogdon for a guy that was unplayable in the playoffs and nesmith??? Larry bird must be giving us the mchale discount
Lmao What is this trade?? If brogdon stays healthy this is such a W for Boston
Sure its a huge W for us, but it's not really an L for the Pacers. They make room for Haliburton to start while getting a decent wing prospect and a pick. They still want to tank next year, this is an amazing tanking move.
Could they have gotten a better pick? Maybe. Probably not considering this is what they took.
hence the return we got... which tbh I'm pleased with
Just wait for him to get a stubbed toe and be out for a few weeks.
Getting a first for Brogdon is great. He’s a negative contract and is always hurt. This is a great chance for Boston to take tho and he will be great as an extra creator
That’s where I’m at with this trade. Win win. Pacers are definitely tanking again and developing the young core.
Yep, exactly. This is a win-win.
Boston adds a role player who can help them win now, assuming he stays healthy, and gives up nothing of tremendous value to them in the short-term. Easy W for Boston.
Indiana adds something that fits their timeline (first-round pick) and can see what Nesmith adds, and all they're giving up is a player who would've taken minutes from Mathurin and Duarte. It's not like Indiana would've been in contention anyway. Easy W for Indiana.
Both teams did something that makes them closer to accomplishing their goals without giving up anything significant.
That’s a bomb, like damn