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u/Neikr1 avatar

She still has no idea what the fuck she is doing going around with class 2 on her back and the cop saying hands up and insta tazing her made her even more confused to what is happening. Someone needs to show her how to do actual crime because Mickey and Kratos just keep sending her to jail LUL

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I think this is one of the huge downsides of big streamers being picked up by the big gangs. They miss a lot of the more petty stuff.

Like, a random person who makes a crim character is going to very much understand that class 2's are illegal to before they even have the opportunity to get one. But when you're adopted by CG or CB, you now instantly have access to class 2s, without fully understanding the ramifications of having them on your person.

This is one of the big things Blau and Penta were arguing about when they did that discussion awhile back, Blau was basically saying for big streamers to get into some massive shit day one right out of the gate like the beginning of the gta story mode mission, and Penta was arguing basically what you are saying to ease into it and let it form organically.

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If you do that, I think you get a better understanding of the difference between RP and Content. I was really happy when I saw Minx the other day on her first day hanging out with Scruffy and his friends, because I know that they are very RP centric characters, and she's gonna really get a taste for what it's like.

u/Puk3s avatar

Also I think new big streamers often don't understand how difficult things actually are. Like if you put Valkyrae, pokimane or fuslie in a cop chase there is like a 2% chance they get away. Also they almost never break cuffs successfully so they sometimes get caught doing simple car swaps and stuff like that.

Ok, but what if it's ok if they don't get away and we get back to how things were before it was a "content" server and RP beyond the initial arrest. Whats crazy is for most of the server the only time ppl RP past the initial arrest is when they are playing alternate characters or perma characters, and they never seem to notice when the crims do that it makes for some great RP situations.

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Remember when having an uzi was an instant raid lmao. People would rather get caught dead than with one on them

man those days were so fun and intense to watch. There are so many downsides if you treat the server 90% as a content server. I dont get how people prefer that.
There is like no tension, nothing to loose other than like 30 min in prison, almost no long term investigations, no auditing, no fear to get caught by the cops or about the fines

u/GTAClips avatar

Or the times when Lang was the main hacker for CB and wouldn't bring a gun with him on jobs because he was afraid of having violent felonies on his record (at the time he was under the impression that violent felonies could lead down a road where he may lose Rooster's Rest).

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Petty crime is the most entertaining crime to watch, IMO!

fellow rhodes enjoyer

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Well said.

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Yeah I feel like Kratos should have warned her like "hey if you have that on your back cops will immediately stop and search you" but at the same time she isn't doing herself any favors by pulling guns on every other person she meets lmao

u/surfershane25 avatar

It seems really ignorant to think if you’re walking around with an illegal weapon that you wouldn’t be stopped immediately by cops, like you’re doing that thing that they stop you for, don’t be surprised when you get stopped.

u/YipYips85 avatar

I think some people just hangs out with their friends and create content and the focus on RP is secondary. This is issues that occurs when that happen. Some people cant fathom that others are truly RP;ing.

which would be fine if they ONLY interacted with their friends... but when they go all Karen on other people for roleplaying, it's pretty cringe

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u/mw19078 avatar

I mean half the city walks around with guns on their back, pretty easy to see how someone new to the server wouldn't immediately understand the nuances of police escalation etc.

u/surfershane25 avatar

She played in 2.0 and early 3.0, how long is she new for? Also she should be mad at the person who gave her that without explaining the nuance, not the cops, right?

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bro wtf is this? im no rp andy but these fucking entilted streamers are too much

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u/Neikr1 avatar

What's wrong with carrying a shotgun on your back? KKonaW

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She still has no idea what the fuck she is doing going around with class 2 on her back

Exactly. This is like when your friends basically carry you to absolute end game in a game like terraria and give you all these items and you have 0 clue what went into getting them. Poki basically got thrown in the mega deep end and people seem to forget how new she is.

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One of the best parts of GTA RP (from a player perspective) is coming into a new city and going from unknown to known. From a novice to an expert. From someone who needs help to someone who is giving it.

I understand a massive streamer like that cant have the same experience, but it is a shame. Always one of my most rewarding aspects when I join new cities.

It also doesn't help that so much of their experiences with larger streamers is just one large SKIP and a brigade of hoppers.

idk just seems like another LSF streamer coming in and telling people who have been playing on the server for ~4 years how they should RP.

These people don't realize it, but they're broken fukin' records... No waaaaaay Poki, extending the RP has -never- been a discussion on no pixel, you're -really- breaking new ground here.

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u/Sybinnn avatar

From someone who needs help to someone who is giving it.

this has been a big thing in sykkuno's stream recently with him going out of his way to help people with things like getting a practice laptop, refusing to be the main hacker for jobs, forcing a beginner crim hostage to hack the bank for him, and his idea of getting big boy crims to chaperone a group of beginners for jobs, I dont think he would be thinking like this if he didnt have such a natural progression

Its very common on non-famous rp servers. Put someone onto a gang, or take em to rob a house, show em the mechanics.

My last run I got a job at the recycle center, met the leader of a gang there. He asked me if i wanted to get into some other forms of making money. We clock out…wait for night, rob houses, get into a foot chase. His shooters show up and scoop us up in a car and we dipped. I joined the gang that night, next week I did the exact same thing. New guy came into recycle center, asked him how broke he was, cut him in on a few house robberies (and taught him the lockpick mechanics). Brought him into the gang. Now I had my own mini-clique within the gang. Was sick!

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I guess this is the main problem with people just throwing their friends that are new to the server straight into hardcore crim RP.

Better to start off slow, and work your way up the crime ladder, as you learn and progress. Being thrown into the biggest and most severe situations to start off with will result in cops going hard, because it is a serious situation. Which will then result in the new people not having as much fun.

Cops are usually more lenient on new people robbing houses etc.

After this Buddha told Tony they need to bring her back down and start with house robberies so hopefully they will help her get there.

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u/Weinerbrod_nice avatar

Very valid point. Cops are supposed to go hard when there are serious crimes involved, like robbing banks/vaults etc. It's a big difference if you're just detained at a traffic stop, or as you said house robbery.

Yeah thats very true. Zerkka for example started at the bottom and learn't everything without massive handouts. It's obviously paid off because for the short amount of time he's been in the server (compared to allot of others) he grasps the server more than someone who is thrown into robbing banks straight away.

Even Valkyrae does her own thing and tries to learn the basic criminal stuff, even with being in CG. I can't remember who it was in CG but they said they have allot of respect for her IC for not just relying on OG's to give her everything. Probably the reason randy wanted to show her the ropes of dodo, because he saw that she wanted to learn as much as possible to be more self sufficent.

Yeah, I think part of the reason Valkyrae left early on was she felt like she could only hang out with the main CG people she knew because she was pretty reliant on them for everything. What got her hooked recently is the grind and progression she gets from dealing weed and selling stuff for Vinny.

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u/Sorenthaz avatar

Doesn't help that she's already in with CB and is ICly X's sister.

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u/borpa2 avatar

Feel like things like this are why you should organically start doing crime instead of coming into the city immediately robbing banks and toting class 2s. Let’s you build up to understand why things work how they do. Probably doesn’t help that she mostly hangs out with people with similar “content” mindsets.

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Yeah this is why I disagreed with Blau's point, during his chat with penta, that its okay to show the new rpers the epic content that you can create on the server by immediately doing high risk jobs. Because then for them the server becomes a content machine and cops become content killing/fun sucking people. It takes time to understand how laws work on NP before you know how to easily get in and out of sticky situation which can put you in jail. And Mickey can do this well, but new rpers cant.

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It's different for these big streamers trying to get into NoPixel though.

If they start from the bottom, trying to organically RP their way from the bottom, their likelihood of quitting increases significantly before they do those months of work because it may be too slow burn and boring for them.

There's definitely a balance to be had. Obviously, you don't want to blow your load early by showing all the epic content at once, but if you consider maintaining viewership into consideration, you can't expect them to slow burn RP their way there before quitting.

In the end, people are just robbing themselves out of the actual roleplay experience when they decide to skip steps.

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It's like playing an RPG but starting from max level. Confusing because you don't know how to actually play, but all the smaller level stuff feels boring and eventually you just wait for new content.

Honestly most people who start like that would greatly benefit from making a second character. (and not doing the same exact path)

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I really enjoyed Sykkuno's progression. Dundee helped get him started with a good old house robbery.

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I disagree... I'm going to use Hirona as an example of a big streamer (when she joined FamilyRP she consistently pulled some of the highest numbers.) She didn't instantly get into big shit and her first character was someone who grew organically and... From then to now something like four or five years later? I distinctly remember watching her for the first time... Most of these bugger streamers coming in now with their hands being held? They miss out on the new player experience of making mistakes, asking how to flex muscles, and such...

Maybe I'm crazy, but... I find it more fun seeing someone come in and explore. Work a few of the civ jobs, get their truck stolen and chase after it, lose it and then later get run down by it was the local still has it and hasn't despawned, over Streamer-VC12673 coming in and suddenly being Neo and having everything downloaded into them.

Reminder that Yuno, the cheatcode himself, started by robbing a convenience store for booze money to give to Dundee and failing to steal a microwave

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u/KarrotMovies avatar

There are so many big streamers like Sykkuno, Ash and even X who started from the bottom and are still playing to this day.

imo yuno when he first started was the most entertaining for me. seeing him build connections with different people was so enjoyable

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u/kangg0619 avatar

Zerkaa too if I’m not mistaken.

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That's actually a good point. The three you named all carved out their own paths and legacies which is respectable. Hell, there was a point in time where X's only friend was Wrangler.

At least when Milton/Vader/Whippy use to be THE tutorial characters (which they were criticized for, funnily enough), they would eventually let the streamer go off into the world on their own.

When CG/CB pick up new streamers, they're instantly shoehorned into these exclusive groups for life.

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True, and it has obviously made their journeys much more rewarding to watch, but at the same time people just have to accept that the server is in a very different place than it was a year or 9 months ago.

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they had the benefit of almost nothing being established yet at the beginning of 3.0 when there was no crime to be had just petty small time thing compared to now

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The thing is, its fine for a streamer to want to come in and "skip" organically learning how RP works. It doesn't effect anyone else in the server if a big streamer doesn't want the slow burn RP. And likewise if you are a viewer that prefers slow burn RP, there are many other streamers you can watch to find the RP you enjoy.

The problem comes when said big streamers want special treatment because they chose to skip out on organically learning how to RP. You either organically learn how the server works and become a member of the community, or you fast track your way to content and accept how the server is without complaining or suggesting changes.

I would add on top of that that if she has any grievances she discuss it with her group off-stream so that they can explain to her why she's in the wrong. This and her getting mouthy at Carmella robbing the bank even though she was severely outnumbered just show how much she needs to learn. And asking chat is one of the worst things you can do.

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u/JohnnyNumbskull avatar

This is why the Block gang at Alta was so good. Penta would often pick people up who just woke up and they would get an hour or 2 of great RP learning how the city works and a story and memory for their character that can help define them.

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Can't forget Wingman

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u/surfershane25 avatar

I’m fine with having big streamers unwilling to learn how to RP or finding out they don’t like RP, not playing on what used to be an RP server… maybe that’s me as an RP watcher and not a content watcher.

I get this argument, I get that it happens, but it's kinda a lazy excuse. It's like saying this will probably happen, so it will happen, so let's just skip even trying.

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You only get to RP the low end once, there a lot of content in benign fast food RP and civ life for a couple days. Then you actually get an idea of what an RP server is like before you shift gear into full content server experience.

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I think Brooke/Abby is a great hybrid example. She came to the city with the backstory of being Tony’s friend from out of city. He drove her around, did his tutorial tony stuff, and let her free. Now she has Claire and the Angels who she met organically and is on her own grind without relying on her OOC friends to hold her hand.

Not that I think what Poki is doing is bad. Being X’s sister is a good IC way for the CB boys to quickly adopt her and she meshes super well with them. I think she just needs a quick crash course on how the cops operate and things like class 2 weapons so she’s not confused when things like this happen.

I love Brooke! She's such a great addition to no pixel.

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She had met Bananabrea in an among us chat because they all freaked out how similar her and Brooke sounded so they were technically OOC acquaintances but yeah it wasn’t set up.

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I love Soda and MoonMoon's approach when they first came to the city, their characters were open books and their adventures they bounced around were all organic with both calling taxis fresh off the train. Soda called Speedy from the yellowpages and next thing he's in the middle of a gang war in the Southside and the rest is history. Additionally they're amazing roleplayers that had fun, ate their L's and never malded and created 2 of the best No Pixel characters ever.

NP has always done a phenomenal job of chasing off the big streamers who actually want to RP, and catering to the ones who create drama, toxicity, and are just there to content farm with their OOC streamer buds.

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People creating characters and robbing banks within 24 hours is by far my least favorite thing about this server. There’s so many cool things that can be done within RP, but big streamers that play for 2 weeks treat it like GTA online

I don’t know how people can clown on the F8ze gang and Pink Gang and people like that, but then turn around and pog their brains out when a streamer they like does the exact same thing

Pink Gang actually broke the rules of the server, flooded this sub with dumb videos of them rule breaking and doing really stupid stuff, and tried to big dick all the gangs. That's an awful example to bring up she definitely doesn't do the same stuff as Pink Gang lol

Pink Gang came into the server with a sense of entitlement and the attitude that they could just skip the come up type stuff because they had the clout to buy prio. That’s how the streamers I’m talking about are.

No one knew about them because their clout didn’t come from streaming, but they were on the server for months verbally abusing cops and breaking rules constantly. They just didn’t face repercussions until they VDM’d spaceboy and only got banned because they did it to the wrong person

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Yeah but... big streamers don't get on the server to roleplay, they get on to do sbs stuff with their friends.

It wouldn't be a problem if when things don't go well they don't get mad and understand the server is still a roleplay server even if focused on content nowadays.

She didn't have it kratos gave it to her which is funny af 😂

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u/Sorenthaz avatar

Oh boy, a big streamer who got into the "content" right away via her OOC connections now complaining that the cops should be more content-oriented. All while barely understanding what she's even doing and just riding on the coattails of others.

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Maybe she needs a nametag or custom clothing that says who she is so everyone that interacts with her can treat her like a celebrity.

"It would be nicer for them to content a bit more" What the fuck are these new RPers taught? I am legitimately confused how the mentality of being caught for crime and being processed and facing consequences is not content.

u/surfershane25 avatar

Rp ends with arrest or when you’re downed for many of them, the don’t know how to RP the times that they’re hurt or arrested because they aren’t immersive and it’s more work than running from cops or shooting.

less POG too

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Watching Rae’s streams some of her most iconic moments comes from getting arrested. Selena Mendoza, Gunner, Ray, Yuno and April all throwing each other under the bus. Getting arrested is hilarious RP if done right.

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I remember wrangler pulling her and sykunno over and just fucking with them, Rping with police shouldn’t be seen as the end of content when RP is content, just different content.

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u/Nopixelcopsimp6969 avatar

What if the cops don't know who she is or that she's new or even if they do what if they don't give a shit? Why is it up for the cops to cater to people?

I agree I wish cops were less prone to go all in on fun or less serious scenarios but asking the cops to keep track of which big streamer is on the server today and whose new is so egotistical

It's also hard to know what's SBS where they're willing to mess around with you, and when they're just going to gun you down. I've seen cops having fun with some people, it was fairly SBS silliness on both sides, and then crims pull out their guns and gun them down. It's funny for the crim, but has to feel awful for the cop who was just trying to mess around and not take any of it serious.

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I remember that, it was literally his first 5 minutes on the server lol

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u/crustyorifice avatar

"Content a bit more"

Chase died for this.

One last job baby AWOOOOOOOO

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Awoooo

u/Velvet_Llama avatar

Content a bit more

What does that even mean?

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u/EristicMeow avatar

Newer rpers need to understand that there is a punishment for their actions they cant get away just for content. Unless they rage hard.

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Ironically some streamers (and some viewers) don't even seem to realize what makes content. If we want scripted or standardized interactions we'd all be watching soap operas on TV.

I don't want to watch criminals win every time, I don't want cops that basically follow a flowchart on how they respond, and I don't want to watch streamers interact with the same people the same way every single day. All of that is boring as fuck.

GTARP is awesome because it's unique, unscripted, and each cop/crim/civ acts differently and treats every situation in their own way. THAT is what makes content and that is why we watch.

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You can see when a person knows absolutely nothing about roleplay when she can't understand getting away or not are both content. Win and lose mentality is so shit.

Yeah, and thinking you can't get content from talking to cops in the cells is bizarre. They rarely leave someone standing in the cells alone very long unless they're part of an active scene or about to get interrogated, etc.

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Ash and Ziggy in the cells is probably one of the greatest encounters on the server.

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u/Sorenthaz avatar

Yeah she got the easy ride into the server and immediately joined up with one of the most powerful crim gangs running around as ICly the sister of one of the most notorious cop killers. She probably just saw xQc and maybe others and how they play the game and thought that she can just do the same right away without repercussions.

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Its a content server now bro LMAO

Up next a GTA RP Esports competition.

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u/Disclaimz0r avatar

I think it goes without saying that some cops go a lot harder than others, some are more of a middle ground, and others will just let you off with playful banter/trolling. She's very new, so I don't expect her to understand that. The dudes who arrested her were honestly that middle-ish ground/banter type.

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But fun cops break immersion and aren’t doing their jobs as equalizers of the server. “Oh you had a rocket launcher, a dead mountain lion, some meth, but are new to crime, have a nice day miss” is so fucking dumb.

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Being new should never be an excuse to not face consequences, maybe if it's your first time being arrested sure, but if you are coming into the city and having instant access to class 2 and robbing banks in your first couple of weeks, you should be ready to be treated like a hardened criminal.

u/Hmmthehmmman avatar

This is what happens when big streamers who join the server just decide to join their OOC friends group instead of finding their way in the city. If she actually had some progression and learned how to do things organically instead of hanging out with the 5 other top 10 twitch streamers on the server then she’d probably understand more this isn’t a “content server”. This is an RP server, if you’re not smart you’re going to get caught. The cops enjoying their role matters just as much as the crims enjoying theirs.

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There's a lot of info that the more experienced crims take for granted as knowledge that the new ones don't. Like, "put all your actual illegal stuff away before doing SBS silly crimes" is a big one. When you want to do both big illegal stuff + minor illegal stuff, the two types of items need to be separated or else you might accidentally get the 9s for robbing a house since you forgot to put xyz away first. And new crims don't seem to understand what factors trigger raids or how raids work, which is also very important.

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Ramee and silent were talking about this kind of situation about april. Alot of the new ppl are super popular and are instantly thown into the biggest ganks in the city. So the way they learn is very very different then reality.

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u/KarrotMovies avatar

And she's gonna be with Mickey so that parole is basically a guarantee

u/PanicSwtchd avatar

It's kind of the problem of speedrunning past the evolution of becoming a criminal and going straight from fresh off the train right into doing 'big crime'

You skip learning all the necessary steps to be effective. I don't think it's up to the cops to be more 'content' as opposed to respecting the growth process and organically becoming a crim.

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u/flobben123 avatar

Crims could make it fun for cops, it goes both ways and the response is usually very reactive depending on what happens...

u/raiderjaypussy avatar

Arrested = cops hate content LULW

u/kylethegoatanderson avatar

Probably my favorite part about the HoA is that they usually care about everyone having fun.

Even during their "kill all cops in Mirror Park" arc, they're still the most fun gang to RP with as a cop.

They really are different breeds.

It's the same with the Lost too, they can be serious but then after the serious scene like a big shootout, they tend to be very SBS when on the ground to lighting the mood. I don't think I have even seen the Lost mald much either.

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Most people do. It's usually the "try hard" criminals that are trying to be the best at something (shooting, driving, hacking) that end up caring too much about winning where if they lose they don't have fun which makes it so others don't have fun either.

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u/Kolipe avatar

People just aren't creative enough so they just mald.

Look at, for example, what happens when Mike Block, the Dans, Littlemans, any Kyle crim or HOA do when they get arrested? They make it fun for everyone. It's still content.

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"I feel like I'm allowed to talk about my negative experiencies. Am I not? And I dont want any of you guys to shit on any of the cops, but I do think it would be nicer of them to sometimes "content" a bit more, especially with people like me."

bE A mECHanIC FOr thE cONtEnt BRah, I R NU

u/surfershane25 avatar

Maybe she could roleplay a bit more? Idk that sounds too crazy.

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“Content a little more” lol

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Yep she's still got a lot to learn. #1 drop the ego, not everyone is going to know who you are or that you're new. They should not have to cater to your inexperience.

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I really feel like making Blau an admin was a mistake. He's a corporate guy with no understanding of the culture or dynamic of how the server has been and wants to change things (whether he has the power to or not, I don't know, but he's the kind of guy to try and influence those changes). His idea of roleplay is playing a movie star in an action film. He doesn't understand the nuances of basic RP and thinks "pog" moments and content is what it should be. I don't agree with a lot of points Penta makes about RP, but I agreed with him a lot about bringing in their friends into the city, instantly linking up with them, and then speedrunning them to endgame in the city with 0 understanding of what's going on.

100%, I’ve said this since he was first announced to be an admin. He fundamentally does not understand roleplay yet believes he’s an expert. Giving someone so content focused authority over a server that’s already suffering from being too content focused is a terrible idea.

I think he and Whippy both have had similar struggles with RP where they have a script in mind and when the script isn't being followed as it exists in their head, they have gotten frustrated. The situations aren't the same in the details, but the theme is that their "plot" isn't followed, and then they blame other people for not following the RP they had in mind. Both of them have good intent, but occasionally fail to appreciate how RP is a both improvisational and shared experience where people can and will make different choices that may not be in line with what their plan had been.

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His conversation with Penta during the Casino robbery said a lot. I 100% agree with him that things like sexual harassment has no place on NoPixel, but his defending of bringing in larger streamers and meta unlocking everything to them instantly was a big question mark. The whole idea that roleplay should be self insert Tom Cruise is stupidly selfish, and puts an entire group of RPers (police) in a position where if they interrupt/arrest the individual that the criminal or their viewers will most likely make a negative response (whether IC, OOC, or receive a spike in toxic chatters).

I'm definitely not an RP purist or anything along those lines and I enjoy a lot of characters on NoPixel, but I miss the old days with Lirik during the first GTARP boom where it was just civ RP for the most part with low level criminal activity. I enjoyed things more when it was about character interactions rather than chasing dopamine highs.

I think most viewers who are still watching will have a similar opinion as yours. I don’t mind some pog content once in a while, but that’s not why I’m here. I’m watching because of storylines that keep me wanting to check back and keep track of. Now it just feels like I could take a month long break, come back and all that’s changed is they’ve added a new heist. Pog.

I really think the content focused behaviour should be discouraged but not only is it not discouraged, it’s actively encouraged and promoted on a server mechanics level. I don’t see things getting any better either. Roleplaying is a niche thing that not all people are into, but nopixel wants to grow into a mainstream thing that anyone can enjoy. We simply cannot have both.

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I think it's more than possible for both to exist in the server, but when staff favor one more than the other and seemingly make new rules/punishments for roleplayers roleplaying it tilts the dynamic and ruins everything. When a crim malds for a roleplayer doing what they've done for years and the admins/devs take the crims side, something is fundamentally broken. I think the thing that really blew my mind was when they made an announcement that people would be banned/punished for 'OOC memes' on the server because they wanted to keep a good relationship with Poke and Zooma. I 100% see Poke getting unbanned after his 30 days.

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Actual yikes take

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AWWOOOOOOO

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I mean she shot someone and then returned with a class 2 on her back, I don't know what she expects

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I really hope that she can figure out how to rp as a criminal including the whole getting caught part, doing what you can to avoid jail, but I have my doubts with this attitude.

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She’s Jean Paul’s sister man. She’s rping perfectly. Just need some weirds, powerful , w seeking and clout accusations and she’s all good.

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I don’t get why this is allowed and Chase isn’t, don’t they know Penta has over 30K subs?

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Unfortunately it seems if cops do their jobs crims just shit on them for "ruining there content". If they're a "fun" cop they get shit on by other cops and pd viewers there's no winning for them.

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They also get shit on by crims for being fun cops, if they happen to go easy on someone the crim doesn't like or is at war with.

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Don't forget fun cops getting shit on for being "inconsistent"

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The moral of the story is crim good, cop bad

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I think Penta made a really good point the other day about the issue with cops v crim, and how it came down to "content."

The issue with the "content" argument is that content, for a crim character at least, is things like bank robberies, and car chases, and shoot outs, all of which are, understandably, illegal. Which makes it the polices job to "end" the content.

It creates this toxic environment where getting caught now means "You're disturbing my channel, making people leave, and losing me money." Because since GTARP did blow up, a lot of people came into the community that care less about RP, and more about content, so when you get caught and go to jail, you're losing viewers.

Vs RP, where cops are essentially a heavy RP role. Yes, there is a lot of content in there, car chases and the such, but the meat of the cop experience is RP.

Also her point of "new people getting more leniency" is kind of dumb. Who you are behind the screen shouldn't matter.

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An ideal "content" server:

Cop: SHE HAS A CLASS 2!! GET HER!! Wait, wait, wait... is that Pokimane? Someone check her stream. How long has she been playing? Two weeks? That is categorized under the intermediate player. We should only use two tazes and three units max. No shift running and give her time for her squad to pick her up.

Hot take, but the best way new players learn is when they face the consequences early on to learn from them before it becomes a bad habit

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Yep, going easy gives them incorrect expectations which just leads to whoever finally ends up having to put their foot down getting accused of "breaking the rules".

u/fiction_is_RL avatar

Then those same cops would be accused of clout chasing.

pepelaguh, cant wait for her to go OOC on cops in a couple of weeks, ngl being a cop on a server its sad asf, you are only get shit on all the time

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u/xSinful avatar

She seemed to have a negative opinion on cops and their rp before even getting into crime when she first came back so this take isn't really surprising

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I wonder where she got that from PepeLaugh

also, salty people like this guy don't help either

u/Nin_san avatar

jesus poke has lost it Completely i just hope he never comes back to nopixel

u/Redforce21 avatar

Desperate vibes in that chatlog

oh god this made me physicaly cringe

u/xSinful avatar

Yeah that's the point. Any streamers that may wanna check the server out likely watch X and his endless malding at cops and they just assume he's right

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Joins the city, has 20k+ viewers so she joins t he biggest gang of the city in day 1, has no rp experience whatso ever, complains about things

Yup, this is NuPixel 3.0, ladies and gentlemen

Chase is banned but this attitude is just fine. :^)

How do you not realize that you can't just walk around with a shotgun on your back.... she even realized this herself since she tried to take it off like 2 seconds before being tazed.

RP isnt rocket science. How would cops IRL react if you chilled with an AK in middle of a major housing center? Although RL cops wouldnt be nearly as nice about it as nopixel cops.

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Who cares about fucking content Jesus Christ enough of this “content”

u/tomojam avatar

At this point just make lite RP, AI cop, streamers hangout server. That way you can have all the content you want without the conflict.

u/Duck_President_ avatar

We already have one and she's playing on it.

Hardcore server desperately need to be a thing.

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Or hardcore doesn’t need to be a thing. Just make everyone put effort into rp that’s how you fix the server.

Just like how the admins cracked down on ooc comments and malding? :tf:

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In this clip she reacts to my comment where i tell her not to complain about cops when they do nothing wrong because all it does is send hoppers.

She then reacts to my comment in a negative way and i receive 20 wispers calling me a cringe cop viewer.

Glad she got the point of the comment.

X RP LUL

u/Downtown-Tell1304 avatar

Ah, yes, again cops are the fault, and not that the new player comes and instantly goes to vault robberies...

lmao shes alraedy paroting the "cops kills my content" shit, god speed.

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There we go. She's a proper member of NoPixel now. Where roleplayers and content creators collide!

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"Why cant the cops just let me win?"

Yeah every cop should know who’s new and who’s not /s

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The chat, jesus christ what a disaster.

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Yeah the chat is actually horrendous.

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It's literally the encounter of all toxic chatters from all other toxic gta communities.

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Poki is one of the rare streamers were "losing your chat community in the switch" is a pro, not a con, to changing streaming platforms.

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This is why I hate people joining NP for the first time and immediately knowing everyone and getting the clout care package. Let people form relationships organically and figure shit out for them selves. I remember the clip of when Claire met Brooke for the first time, and it was Brookes first or 2nd day and she opened up her pockets and had a Heavy pistol and a racing dongle. Its just weird, let people progress and earn shit and figure it out on their own

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Yiiiiiiiiiiiiikes , way to get even more hate watchers for cops who already have it rough.

CONTENT CONTENT CONTENT. AWOOOOOOOOOO

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Damn, she is so manipulative. She definitely knows how to control the narrative into her favor. The server is really at the point where their streamers replaced the word "RP" with "Content" verbally. She could have made her point without the whole victim mentality.

honestly idk why anyone who isn't a big streamer even wants to play on this server if not for the content. It used to be super cool seeing all the fun RP storylines, and there are still some really great RPers, but it feels like the vast majority of it is content content content, and people who want exposure to streamers/to stream themselves.

It's fucking awful for the health of an RP server and makes it much less enjoyable to watch.

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This isn’t an RP server or a content server.

It’s a competitive server right now. Everyone is trying to win and everyone complains when they lose. Cops and crim. I have not been enjoying watching recently

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Yeah, lose doesn't mean the content or RP is over but many people think that's the case.

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Someone need to tell her it’s an Rp server

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Someone in chat did, she called them 3 iq

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PEPW they dont know

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The way CG taught Ray Mond about the risk of having a class 2 is a good way to go about. She keeps her rifle in her glove box and only takes it when 2 cops are around.

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*does criminal shit that warrants the cops behaviour* *carries illegal shotgun in front of cops* "UGH STUPID COPS RUINING MY RP OPPORTUNITIES ITS SO BORING". im not even a cop viewer but i wish she would stop breeding the cop haters in her chat like poke did, its boring and annoying, the cops were just doing what they're supposed to.

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yes but she didnt do much crime and just followed around spaceboy and vader like a lost puppy until she got tired of the low hanging fruit jokes and then stopped playing. she always plays the "im new" card for everything. just ignorance imo.

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I think CB kind of realized that they gotta bring her back down and start at the beginning. Buddha called Tony today and said as much and they talked about doing house robberies and such.

Buddha is now putting her through Dealing with PD 101 at the manor.

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She seems to get frustrated easily when RP doesn't go the way she expects.

Horrible take that has led to NP being more content than RP focussed.

Lost brain cells listening to this

u/hullkogan avatar

Yikes.

I miss the Jerry Curl days.

imagine roleplaying to have fun ... wait isn't that the whole purpose of roleplay is to have fun with "other" people ?

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drives me nuts how people can play on this server and use it for "content" like the only "CONTENT" you idiots should be creating is actual roleplay, not 5 jets flying in the sky in broad daylight and camping on top of office buildings with automatic rifles every god damn day. where's the stories anymore? i tune in to everyones stream and its like "CASINO HEIST TODAY" or "Casual Stream" i have no fucking idea what im supposed to get attached to anymore, if there is anything

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So we can confirm that Poki just isn't good at rp and has a ton to learn. Awesome.

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"I decided to meta join one of the biggest, most violent, and most toxic OOC but I wish they treated me like a starter crim."

There's literally a reason why people compare NoPixel to an MMO, there's a pretty clear line of progression for you to get used to crime, petty crime gets a ton of fun, RP responses. Murdering and kidnapping cops to rob a bank gets you the most aggressive, non-RP response that you can possibly get.

Bad take. try to RP first, don't play a major grinder crim if you don't want that PD response.

Hope she sticks around and tries out some varied characters and learns that the beauty of RP is that you can make content from literally NOTHING.

Because other people on the server just shoot at this cops first than RP.

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man fucking cops doing their job and having to rp consequences :c, I thought this roleplay server wasn't about ruining my fun :c.

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Fuslie is also new but she seems to understand RP a lot better than her. The other day in the Little Toe scenario at uwu where she ended up getting arrested, she gave so much RP and good vibes to Toretti and Byson while RPing all the way through it. Her chat also enjoyed it with good vibes for the cops involved and it ended with her raiding Mantis. Such a positive interaction for/from both sides.

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She has been on Nopixel for almost a year, and streamed 360 hours of GTA.

Sauce.

Yeah, Fuslie has a lot more experience than her at this point it's really not a good comparison.

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Fuslie definitely understands and appreciates the cop end to RP and content. But she still does casually walk around with a class 2 shotgun in her back. Honestly I think the understanding of weapons you can get away with holding is something a lot of the bigger/semi-new streamers still don’t fully grasp. Especially when they are just casually given to them by their more experienced friends.

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u/Ainsley-Sorsby avatar

She's not completely wrong, however, the reason cops in NA times are what they are, is because of her friends. Buddha has explained it awhile ago: they are aggresive because they deal with sweaty people all the time, and they don't "content" alot, because the people they deal with rarely ever give them much room for it, and the moment that they let lose, they get fucked without getting anything in return. The fun cops that she wants, don't really exist in shift two because they don't fit the vibe of the server, and the crims are the ones who set the vibe, because they dictate the rp(the cops are always responding)

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The final verdict in the cells is differnt that their conduct in their field. Bass is "lenient" for the same reason that shift 2 cops are more strict in their conduct, because he's pushed to a wall and crims contantly complain and bicker to him. Being lenient on charges is his way of coping with the pressure.

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I think the blame goes to people who scoop up these new rp players to a crazy crime situations, and basically spoil them everything. They need to introduce them with slow crimes like robbing houses, running oxy, civ jobs: hunting fishing sanitations, just the whole course. Not a a+ boost the first day. I still remember x just dressing like a homeless man with the bowlcut and trying to scam people. Robbing houses, being super paranoid and scared. All the way to becoming the terrorist he is(not a good accomplishment tbh). But working your way naturally is way more rewarding. Obviously, it helps that it was a 3.0 boom, so they had the most natural progression in rp. So, emulating this "natural progression" environment to new rpers is way better in the long run and doesn't lead to such frustrations.