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The Hollywood Foreign Press Association has always been the bottom of the barrel in terms of credibility. It's depressing - though hardly surprising - that they ever held any sway within the entertainment industry.

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What, they don't think Emily in Paris got her nominations fair and square?

That show got awards (even if bought) !? I only watched bits of it because of how bad it was

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Sounds like what a FRENCH PERSON would say!

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It's finals week, get the fuck out of here with your 25 minute videos. I'm trying to procrastinate responsibly over here.

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When you master that, please rush me a “how to” video.

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Tiktok for 10 minutes, 2 minutes of work, 10 minutes of tiktok, go eat, tiktok for another ten(you oi obviously used youtube while eating), Twitter for 5+1+1+1+1+1 minutes, 2 minutes of work, look up a new career, decide on one five o min of actual work, and have the best sleep

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Just watch at x5 speed

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I’m assuming its a video of a simple 3 minute omelette recipe that is somehow 40 minutes long

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im 4 minutes in and so far the guy has just said he doesn't like it.

Omelette du fromage

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They renewed that garbage but not my beloved Teenage Bounty Hunters.

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Loved this show, so sad to see it go

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omg, this show looks so fucking obnoxious.

I watched 15ish minutes of the first episode and thought, "I am not this show's target audience" and gave up on it.

Soon heard my mid 20s American girl friends raving about it, and thought yep that sounds right.

Yup young girls love this shit. But im 24 guy and like it too so...

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My friend, you're just not live, laugh, love(sex) hard enough! Or was it eat, pay, love harder?

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Holy s*** that looks horrible. And I'd like to add this: I've been to Paris three times in my life, and the worst people that I've ever encountered there all three times were all other Americans.

People will appreciate and be helpful if you make the smallest amount of effort to start whatever it is you would like to say in French. The greeting, whatever. Just start by politely saying that you cannot Converse in French and ask them if they can converse in English. Like in any normal conversation that you would expect if anyone, be polite and don't make assumptions.

It drives me absolutely up the wall whenever I see or hear people making the same stereotypical BS comments about the French being rude and all of the other things that were highlighted in that video. It is an absolute bunch of merde.

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All awards are bought that's how it works the one who spends the most for votes get the votes. Just like regular elections.

They literally campaign for it.

For voting bodies with lots of members, campaigns help get your movies seen but don’t necessarily help it get votes (Netflix definitely spent more money on the Oscars campaign for Chadwick Boseman than Sony Pictures Classics spent on Anthony Hopkins, but Hopkins still won). You can lead a lot of horses to water but can’t make them drink.

For voting bodies of less than 100, like the Golden Globes, it’s much easier to “buy” a vote. Fewer horses, more money/time per person. They literally flew like a third of the body out to Paris to show them a set. The Globes have always been a joke.

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"You can lead a lot of horses to water but can’t make them drink."

You can if you tape the hose in their mouth. I've tried. -Dogbert

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Hey thats not entirely true. Best animated feature wins based on what the judges kids watched.

If it were that street forwards, Michael Bloomberg would have won the presidency...

Some analysts even think political funding is a trailing indicator, i.e. politicians get and spend more funding because they're more popular and not the other way around

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That godawful cringefest of boring writing and bad acting I had to wade through half an episode of with my gf... won an award?

Thankfully it didn't win any awards, but it was nominated for best actress and best TV series. Which is utterly trash.

It was rumoured that the show paid for a trip to Paris for a cool half of the voting members.

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Best actress

The actress of Emily...? But... this was the worst acting in a high budget show I saw this year. She’s like that basic high school drama student who must clearly have rich parents and whose cringey class performance you sit through out of politeness.

EDIT: Holy shit, she’s Phil Collins’ daughter. That... makes sense.

Her performance in the movie To The Bone, where she plays a girl recovering from an eating disorder, is great. She had an ED herself so she was able to bring a lot to the performance. She also wasn’t that bad in Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil, And Vile (where she played Ted Bundy’s girlfriend), but Zac Efron did outshine her a bit. She was good in The Blind Side too! I feel like serious works are her forte, she’s not the best comedic/lighthearted actress.

Emily In Paris itself is shit. The writing the concept the dialogue. No actor could ever save the show.

Is she in mortal instruments? (Think that's what it's called, with Nathan from misfits)

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I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say she made the best with what she got. That script was trash. The idea was trash. She made the trash watchable.

Full disclosure: I am her.

Jkjkjk but I’ve been in shitty productions and you can’t alway blame the most visible thing.

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I always talked shit on Kristen Stewart for her acting in twilight, but in retrospect she really nailed the part of a vapid angsty teen.

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Holy shit, she’s Phil Collins’ daughter.

Oh thank you. I couldn't watch this show. I don't know french way of life etc but this doesn't need any extra knowledge to know that it is cringey as fuck. Acting is abysmal. She over acts, under acts but can never just be normal. Maybe she gets better through the episodes but I ain't venturing that far. I was so surprised as to how on earth this got nominated , now y'all have opened my eyes.

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Oh my god I've hated every ad for it that I've seen lol.

Truth. I love fish-out-of-water comedies, and I couldn’t make it 15 seconds into a trailer for that show.

Me too! I love comedies but I watched the ad and mumbled "Wow I just got dumber watching that" hahaha

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I guess I should be thankful I've never heard of this Emily in Paris show before now

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Hot take:

The show is stupid and fun. Shows can be two things.

Edit: That doesn’t mean that it should have won anything.

Stupid and fun shows shouldn't be awards lmao

100% agree. Just thought I would throw some positivity in a mix of people just trashing it.

It wasn’t great television, but I have seen oh so much worse.

It's basically just travel porn wrapped around a shitty plot.

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Ok but Lily Collins is so cute

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Her character is just so ugly though...

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There's a reason people call them the drunk oscars. Celebrities know they're bullshit bought awards which is why everyone always just gets hammered and parties.

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Golden globes are really drunk. From Deadpool and Spiderman kissing to Jack Nicholson taking a Valium, really weird

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Somehow, Oscars see themselves as being above having a coke table and it’s really starting to show.

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Everyone just does coke in the bathrooms.

Only thing that will keep you awake through the Oscars.

I really doubt it, from what I have read the Oscars itself is just a fucking job for all of the people who attend outside of the ones who think they might win. They go ham after the job is over.

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They have a Diet Pepsi table

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Is Pepsi table ok?

Hmmm.. Make Pepsi Twist available and we can talk.

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I work at all these shows and the Globes are my favorite because the atmosphere is always better and it’s funny to watch celebrities get wasted. However, as an institution, the Globes are irreverent

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They said ‘irreverent,’ not ‘irrelevant.’

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I dont see why people watch these awards shows. Its all a big rich Hollywood circle jerk.

I like the movies and artists i like, who cares which movies or shows or albums a group of rich people feel like calling 'the best'?

Honest questiins from someone who never found oscars or Emmys or whatever even remotely interesting.

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The Oscars, save for a few years (or skits), is pretty boring... and that is ok.

But holy hell, the GGs are so much fun to watch.

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Didn't they put Jack Nicholson's brain in the body of a Gorilla?

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That's what made the joke in 'Bojack Horseman' so funny.

He won a Golden Globe......for writing a book?

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This is why Ricky Gervais was the perfect host. He had such disdain for the entire thing.

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It’s just a gigantic PR event. So you’ll google it/ rent it/ stream it.

The whole event is basically reminding you that these things exist and will soon be or are already available to you in your own home.

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Parasite really had no benefit to the Hollywood system by winning and it brought attention to Korean movies. How much money do you expect everyone to make off of Nomadland?

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wait till the sequel , she's gonna be pooping in the nicest bucket money can buy.

Forget the poop bucket, what she needs is a golden poop knife.

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Marvel's "The Eternals" is now directed by an Oscar award winning director. How much do you think that is worth to Disney?

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PR 100% plays a part in it, but it's an oversimplification to imply that it's all it is. The gala is still one where members of the industry vote for their peers in order to award the best work of the year. Many don't put much stock into the awards, but even some who publicly shat on them found themselves feeling honored when they won (Gary Oldman) and it makes sense because why wouldn't you feel good that your peers thought that what you achieved was worthy of such high recognition?

If for example the TV ratings would dip to tiny numbers, they wouldn't stop the gala from happening because the broadcast is only an aspect of the night. They'd still keep it going, it just wouldn't be broadcast.

I think if it wasn’t televised it would be a very different ceremony.

PR is probably it’s main reason for existing in it’s current iteration. They expanded “best picture” to like what 10 nominees semi recently. The only real reason to do that is to give more movies more visibility/ PR.

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They did absolutely do that for PR, but Best pics nominees were actually originally at 10, but then they got reduced to 5 I believe in the 40s or 50s. So while the motivation for the change was popularity, IMO it was just flat out a good choice regardless.

You're not wrong that the show would be significantly different it was just behind closed doors. Most of the entertainment aspect is for the viewers. There would for example no reason to pad out the show with unfunny bits and pointless escapades when there's no pressure to make a certain run time. There would also be no reason to phase out speeches that wen't on for "too long".

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It's really not at all especially the Oscars. You have to realize it's all mail-in voting it's not a round table, and people don't want to go to those events they are performing the entire time, it's just part of the job.

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I have yet to see any popularity contest that is a true gauge of talent. Mostly because defining talent is hard and also because there are always other factors at play such as connections and money

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Eh. It was always like that. Hollywood runs on a sort of gilded mentality - supposed classiness that covers dirty politics and sketchy issues.

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Not really. The Golden Globes have 90 people voting on them. Shows like the Oscars have thousands. You can't "buy" enough voters to make a difference.

What does happen is that people look to awards shows to reflect their opinion back at them rather than to look at the opinions of others. When they don't get their opinion reflected back at them, they say "oh, these awards aren't legitimate because they're not reflecting my opinion"

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The fact Parasite won so many awards is rather telling that, even if they are bought, there is a limit to what they can by

Though as a wise clown once said.... “let’s just say it moved me.... TO A BIGGER HOUSE!”

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As Mr. Burns found out when football in the groin won

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I think the comparison is that the golden globes is voted for by about 90 people, where as the oscars is voted for by about 9,000 people. Money definitely gets splashed on oscar campaigns but it is nowhere near as easy to buy an oscar than it is a globe.

sir, thats literally all awards

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It’s why I love the Oscars. I want to know what a really wasted Jennifer Aniston is saying to Tina Fey and Maya Rudolph.

People always grip about the “political” statements celebs make but that’s the fun part because you know Meryl Streep means well when she’s going on about the dangers of police brutality but she’s too drunk and it’s hard to follow

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Isn't it pretty known that Oscars are basically bought too?

Oscars has thousands of voters meanwhile golden globe has almost a hundred. You can buy some of oscar voters but not all of them. Otherwise films like Parasite, Moonlight would never win the best picture.

Parasite and Moonlight also won best movie awards from the Golden Globes

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You can still buy a lot of them, because most of them haven't seen all the movies they're voting on and they're influenced by some of the major players. It's complicated and I'm oversimplifying, but that's half the reason that Harvey Weinstein was so powerful. He knew how to work the Oscar system. And he's gone now, but there are absolutely others that know how to do the same, for the right price.

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Oscar campaign has been done openly by studious and Harvey was doing that too, he was more aggressive about it but still he couldn't win most of the oscars for his films.

The nominations are just as important as the awards. The Weinstein Company would get their tentpole movie nominated for like ten oscars every year, no matter how pedestrian the movie was. That’s what woke a lot of people up to the oscars being a scam.

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I've met a bunch of Academy voters, and if they're bought those people have never seen a dime.

Films are marketed towards Academy voters and every studio gets screeners in the hands of most voters, but it's literally thousands upon thousands of people voting. It's no more bought than like any election is.

One member I knew was a stuntwoman, she didn't live in Hollywood and had really little to do with the culture. My girlfriend knows another member and it's like yeah, she doesn't even live in Cali and is definitely not getting "bought" in any way.

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Damn straight. Weinstien pretty much bought over all voters and radio ads to win the oscar for best film for Shakespear in Love. Spielberg was informed of the goings on but said he didnt want to lower himself to Wienstiens tactics. Saving Private Ryan was the film that lost to Shakespear in Love...

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Weinstien definitely campaigned excessively for it, but I think you're underestimating how many voters wanted Stoppard to be lavishly honored at that already fairly late point in his career.

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I mean that explains the animation category every year.

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The HPFA has always been a scam to rip off the TV network that shows it and the studios that make movies. It is mostly worthless old farts that seldom publish anything worth reading.

Ain't every awards like that?

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I don't think so.

I believe the group behind the Oscars has actually made a big effort to diversify their members and remove those who aren't actually in the industry anymore. They also have more than 9,000 voting members, so it is difficult to buy off a big group of them. Same with Emmys.

The HFPA mostly aren't even journalists. There are less than 100 of them and they have zero black members. A lot of their incomes are based on being Globes voters.

No. That's why it's important to target those who really don't. It's the whole "aren't all politicians liars?" mentality that allows people to overlook some real egregious actions, thoughts and activities.

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Michaela Coel was robbed.

I was downvoted to hell, but I laid out some pretty thorough reasons to not watch the Globes, and my reasons weren't even the ones highlighted by this recent drama.

In short- the Globes are determined by a few dozen anonymous sycophants whose opinions are for sale.

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Yeah for me it was when Ricky Gervais called out The Tourist that I started to see it for what it was.

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Wait, Did the Tourist win awards??

That movie looked pretty basic, I was never interested in seeing it.

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I don't think it won, but it was nominated for 3 I believe.

I've watched it recently.

Its a film you can watch and enjoy once but there's no reason to ever watch it again.

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For the record, I didn't enjoy it once lol

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Don't, there were many cringeworthy scenes and at the end my main thought was "why did I spend my time on this?". It's not a terrible movie but just fell really really flat imo.

I had no idea the Golden Globes were this bad until reading this thread, normally I'm a bit skeptical of the kinds of criticisms that people are giving. But The Tourist is just so lame it makes zero sense for it to be nominated for anything.

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It got nominated for best comedy/musical despite being unfunny and boring trash, and both Depp and Jolie were nominated for best actor and actress despite putting in very bland performances.

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Remember when he joked from the podium before introducing the next speaker that he had just helped that HFPA member off the toilet and popped his teeth back in? That member was none other than the ghoulish and now expelled Philip Berk then President who did not take the joke well and immediately threatened Gervais with a when you next have a movie coming out don’t come to us. Yeah. Good times.

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I used to be somewhat interested in the Golden Globes but it took until The Martian being nominated as a comedy for me to realize the joke was on me.

"Comedy/Musical"0 category was full of questionable choices every year, look it up, it's just that the year when The Martian was nominated the same situation repeated too much too often

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No one really thought The Martian was a comedy, there's just two Best Picture categories for the Globes and that's it. The "Drama" category nominees are basically just the pet picks of the judges, the "Comedy/Musical" category is for literally any picture with enough swag to distribute. Stuck-up old movie snobs don't like sci-fi, it's nothing new.

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It's basically a relic of an era when nothing else was getting produced except dramas, comedies and musicals. The categories don't really make sense today since comedies and musicals aren't really the pinnacle of the industry anymore.

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Wait, what? How the hell is The Martian considered a comedy?

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The Golden Globes were never that big of a deal until the show got televised and got decent ratings.

NBC resumed broadcasting it in 1996 and that’s when studios used it in marketing because the general public knew what it was.

Awards get promoted when the general public respects the award. If they watch the ceremony, they respect the award.

Why the hell does anybody care if you win a People’s Choice or BET award?

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I just like watching people give awards to movies.

No one goes on about the integrity of the MTV Movie Awards.

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Hell has been rising a lot recently I guess

I liked your post man. Very informative. What in your opinion is the most worthy award group?

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Not OP, but I’m a fan of the National Society of Film Critics. They consistently make quite good decisions. Festival juries also usually make fun picks.

Obviously with any awards groups they aren’t going to make decisions you 100% agree with, but I think groups who make interesting, well-informed decisions are worth following. Also, I love following the Oscars but that’s more about the prestige quality of it and the fact that it is the biggest boost to movies that do win, which can be fun. I like having favorites of mine not fly under the radar.

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Not after that stupid letter they wrote re: Carey Mulligan and Variety.

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Oh, that was boneheaded and inappropriate, but I still think their awards are pretty solid.

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I know they've got their problems, but really - the Oscars. If I wanted to know the most popular and most influential films of a given year, like 1957 - I want to hear from the filmmakers themselves, and that's what the Oscars are.

It all comes down to - who do you want to hear the opinions of? You don't have to agree, and the choices don't mean "this movie is the best," it's just what is picked by the industry as their favorite of that year. People liked it, so it might be worth watching.

Because honestly, going through old movies without any sort of guide? As much as we want to claim "they don't make 'em like they used to!" and other such nostalgic hogwash - movies sucked back then just as much as they suck today.

I would love it, though, if all the pageantry of the Globes was given to the Independent Spirit Awards. That show is just fun.

It's survivorship bias plus Sturgeon's Law. 90% of everything is crap, but most of what gets remembered is in that top 10%.

Also, this is apparent even within the Oscars. For most categories, only professionals in that field can pick the nominees - for example, it's composers nominating composers and actors nominating actors. There's a few categories (like Best Picture and Best Animated Feature) where the entire membership picks the nominees and those are always the least-reliable categories.

A big thing about the Oscars that most don't realize is that it's a voting pool of something like 7,000 industry professionals. So it's not just whose voting, but the number in that voting pool, that lends it weight.

Also category-specifics award are only voted on by people of that category, which is why the technical awards are often the best.

The only problem with that is how many of those 7000 professionals are crusty old fogies with crusty old fogy taste in movies.

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The Indie Spirits would be a great replacement for the Golden Globes if this scandal results in them going under. Or could another more credible press association take over the Globes?

Oof, not sure. The problem is the range of the awards. The guild awards are credible, but pretty specific. The Emmys are TV-centric, the Oscars are movies-centric, the PGA/DGA/SAG awards are even more specific.

The Globes, on paper, are a nice catch-all ~ TV and Movie Awards. A blend of the Emmys and the Oscars.

The Independent spirit awards are just indie films, which the general audience won't even recognize for the most part, but I love 'em because it's just like the cool kid's table in the Hollywood lunch room.

But - do we need another award show like the Oscars that merges it with TV? Maybe making the Independent Spirit Awards show itself cooler and bigger would make people watch the award show, then in turn make people watch the indie movies that are nominated and win.

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I do appreciate the Oscars more than any other award show, although I'm starting to appreciate the Cannes Film Festival a little more every year. There's something about the Oscars that feels so....Hollywood fake? Maybe, it's just me though. I was looking through Cannes award winners and some I thought were well deserving of the win.

Looking at the 1957 Oscars, haven't seen Around the World in 80 Days but it sounds like a hoot. I did see Giant in a cinema last year and it was one of the best I had ever seen. Reminded me of There Will Be Blood mixed with Gone With the Wind.

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"downvoted to hell" lmao the post has 260 upvotes

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Where are the members of the Hollywood Foreign Press live exactly? Are they like how regular news organizations from Europe (BBC, Deutsche Welle, RT, The Guardian, etc) have by have a reporter stationed in LA instead of NYC or DC?

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I only watched them for Ricky Gervais’ monologue

"Just don't look at it when you touch it."

"What the fuck does sugartits mean?"

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Is there any other reason?

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I will always watch this whenever I need a good laugh. He says what we're all thinking and it's hilarious

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Same with the oscars for me, I dont care, give me a columnized table of nominees and winners and I'll give it a chance when I can.

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When you have to buy your awards, your "art" is shit.

I have never seen an awards show and my life has been pretty great.

Not even the Kids Choice Awards?

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Or the Dundies?

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[adlib masturbation joke]

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I can feel god in this Chili’s tonight

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I watch them religiously with my mom and when she dies I know that it’s a tradition that I’ll hold dearly in my heart. Sometimes it’s not the what, it’s the how we experience it. People watch these awards with their family and feel a part of something. It’s maybe a bullshit award, but the tradition really means something to me.

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and revealed that the 86-member organization of international journalists has no Black members.

This is what this is all about. Let's not kid ourselves.

Also the bribing for nominations/wins is a problem.

>The HFPA consists of about 90 members from approximately 55 countries with a combined following of more than 250 million

I guess none of those 55 countries are from Sub-Saharan Africa.

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Lerman noted that the HFPA is made up of a diverse group of journalists representing 40 countries, with 14 who are Asian and seven Africans.

https://www.newsweek.com/hollywood-press-members-feel-victim-cancel-culture-even-they-oust-philip-berk-over-blm-comments-1585467

I have no idea what is the golden globes but I found this.

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You can be African and not be black. It's a big place.

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You can even select seven people to be representatives from Africa and have them all not be black. If you try really hard.

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No, not only that, this article doesn't describe whole context, it's just current outcome and what different organizations and people have said at this time. You need to look up older articles about Hollywood Foreign Press Association to get more context.

They had a lawsuit against them from other foreign journalists in America because they are basically a closed off organization that gets privileged access to movies and stars, and there's no way to join them. This whole monetary thing which is just mentioned this time is a big thing. Read on it, don't just make hasty conclusions. Lack of racial diversity is one of HFPA problems that has to do with it's stable membership, but it's a sign of a bigger problem.

Wtf are you even saying lmao. It's an organization of journalists from 55 countries and no African journalists at all?

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Looks like someone’s going to be spending a fuckton of money on “diversity consultants” soon.

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Nobody even watches the Oscars anymore, this must have the viewership of a few amoeba.

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This also reminds me, Miss World/Universe paegents were pretty big when I was a kid, now I don't hear about them. Guess viewership of such events is dying.

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Cable television is dying and most televised events with them. From pageants to award shows to professional sports, none of them put up the TV numbers they used to.

But cable is still the most profitable venue for it, advertisers still value it very highly maybe too highly, so then won't abandon it for internet streams just yet. Sports is moving into paid for apps, which they can do successfully because of their followings, but most people aren't going to pay money just to watch the Oscars or Miss Universe.

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A few amoeba and me. Although the show this year was awful. Worst one in my 30ish years of watching.

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It was over when it started.

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I watch the On Cinema Oscar special each year. Definitely worth checking out for a laugh, but there’s an entire universe to get into.

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What's worth more: a golden globe or a kids choice award?

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our time.

A J D power and associates seal of approval.

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You have no idea how long of a time this award corruption BS has been needed to be called out. I cannot even believe that with all these amazing newspapers across the country no one has done serious investigative reporting on how corrupt these processes are.

The Grammys, Golden Globes, and even the Oscars are known for only selecting candidates who’s representation and studios are essentially making bribes (food, benefits, travel, premiere tickets and flights) and returning favors in exchange for nominees and wins. This is why no Independent artist ever get nominated - it’s all rigged and they try to pretend everyone else is to stupid to know better. It’s a shameful practice. This is also why no Black artist ever won major awards! They can try to pretend their not racist all they want - they never nominated black directors or DP’s or producers for over 90 years of history at the Oscars because only THEIR FRIENDS were getting the awards.

Edit- If you look at the Oscars history of nominees, you will see trends. Only certain producers, actors, production companies, and studios take most of the awards. It is all a very tight knit community, and yes, it is rigged. Friends vote for friends.

Second Edit- There is also proof of this. The “Foreign Press association,” who votes for Golden Globe winners, is not even made up of press members. It’s made up of well connected people that have “loose connections to the press”. It’s all for show.

Third edit- a very good friend of mine was nominated for best picture a few years back, and I have worked with his production company through the years, this is where my background comes on this topic.

Final Edit- Check out the news everyone - Now NBC is not airing the globes next year. And the industry is finally calling it out. It only took several decades for the industry to realize the blatantly obvious corruption. But they are still giving them a chance to ‘reform’. That’s still ridiculous, the whole structure should be overhauled 100%.

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Your first sentence was such a ride. I still don't really know what it says.

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Who even watches the golden globes anymore ?

Me...but this year was pretty bad.

I was surprised that I, a relative nobody compared to Tinseltown’s finest, had better Internet connection than celebrities.

This year just felt cheap - a glorified conference call. No movies in theaters further sucked the joy out of award shows as well.

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Mostly just Youtubers and bored people I assume.

Me

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And once again Ricky Gervais was right...

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It's a little rich and very hypocritical for everyone to act like the HFPA is suddenly the bad guy here. It's been an open secret what a sham their "jouranalists" are (all you have to do is look at the rolls and see that not a single major news outlet is represented). Der Spiegle, Paris Match, another others known to have reps in New York or Hollywood have never AFAIK in the last 20 years been in the HFPA.

Yet these same people getting the vapors over the HFPA, demanding more changes, are exact same folk who lavished money & access on them for the publicity all these years knowing full well how they operated. What, NOW, you have an issue?

Don't know who is the front runner for hypocrites of the year, the studios/publicists or Frances McDormand who 100% was aware of the well known fact that Scott Rudin abused his assistants with mental cruelty over-compensating for who knows what yet now refuses to address the issue (she skipped the traditional post win meet-the-press at the Oscars knowing that question was 100% getting asked).

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I should point out I really like McDormand as both a person and actor, but, sister, if you going to speechify when you win you better be ready to own it when it's your turn. You'd have to be fresh off the bus from Poughkeepsie not know that Rudin has bragged about being the town's worst boss on the record for decades now.

Don’t forget The Romanian Lawn Mower Review.

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Generally not one to hate on corporation for standing up for what is obviously right and natural, but this is such blatant virtue signaling, hating on an cheap target nobody in the public cares about that much, while letting not expecting more from the Oscar's.

Sadly, the Golden Globes are the only awards with both a drama and comedy/musical best picture, which often prizes animation. Many animated pictures are technically best picture winners, which is better than the ridiculous Best Disney Childrens' Animated Film category, even if Disney gets most awards anyway.

Also, why aren't the Critic's Choice Awards a major deal. Doesn't that make more sense than whatever the "Foreign" Press Association is.

What the fuck is this article? This is some of the worst formatting and sentence structure I have read. Incoherent.

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Why don’t they build their own Oscars? With blackjack and hookers perhaps?

Golden Globes are a joke award show that a ton of people seem to think are legitimate because they're on TV. When you have fewer than 100 voters, all who regularly accept wining and dining for votes, many of whom don't even work in journalism or in the industry... it's a joke. The People's Choice Award is more legitimate.

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They should create a streaming awards show and play it live on Youtube. Get Daniel Tosh to host it and let twitch pick the winners.

And the Best Picture as selected by Twitch goes to: Backdoor Sluts 9: Revenge of the Pummeled!

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Netflix shoulda distanced themselves from that cuties movie

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No, but that was "brave". LOL. Fuck them, fuck Hollywood, and fuck award shows.

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Awards shows are dying Oscars had the lowest viewership this year and people only see Golden Globes bcz of Ricky Gervais roasting Hollywood. These awards shows are just celebrities wanking each other and nothing more

I remember watching them when I was a kid and you’d see movies that you’d went to see in theaters nominated. Now every year it’s a celebration of movies nobody has heard about.

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This is where I'm at with the Golden Globes.

Is it flawed? Yes.

Are awards shows flawed in general? Yes.

Do they give some awards to movies that don't deserve them? Yes.

Do they mostly give awards to movies I feel deserved them? Yes.

I'm way more concerned by the business practices of Netflix and Amazon than I am with how many black people are members of the HFPA.

I'm also confused how so many "Hollyweird" bashing discussions get upvoted over the weekends. The last three weekends I've seen the same type of articles used as a springboard for the same political flavored comments. It's like the people who downvote that shit take weekends off and the people who upvote it are left here like unattended children.

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I'm just like, why are we giving pointless awards to actors who already get ass buckets of money anyway while the techs who make the movie possible are on a more normal wage

How funny would it be if the streaming platforms come together and make an award for themselves, excluding anything released in the theater only

It would need to be something to do with Streaming and Gold

I know, a Golden Shower (of Praises)

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Another casualty to the "diversity" crusade
You go context-less diversity, you go...

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u/KashMeOutside1 avatar

The left eating the left.

YOU'RE NOT WOKE ENOUGH. NEXT!

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Luckily every other award show has integrity

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u/afr0physics avatar

All american award shows are pure garbage

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This shit is pathetic. They’re straight up strong-arming the HFPA and forcing diversity and inclusion. Pressuring people who to vote for through intimidation tactics. That’s not the way it should be.

I've never liked these award shows. These people suck each other off, then parade about like they are the only redeeming thing about human kind.

The whole thing just makes me sick that people care this much about celebrity facade bullshit.

TLDR, also not an American

Why have people got their knickers in a twist?